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Well said ^^ 
Self entitlement
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Well what do you expect when you post such spurious rubbish
This feeling of individual importance and self entitlement over one's place within society started long before the last labour government, you can trace it back through the 80's, the 60's, as far back as you want really...
It has far more complex socio-economic roots than just the last labour government!
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I have worked with people who seem to live and breathe socialism, equality and self-entitlement.
A small few are genuinely in it to selflessly help others and promote equality, having no regard to their own income, self-importance, well-being and health. These same people are also the ones who also get ‘used’ by those, above and around them, that push the equality & entitlement agendas to further their causes. They simply become pawns or employees in a low-income game and they just don’t see it, because, they innocently or ignorantly believe everyone working with and around them sees the world with their eyes.
The rest and majority who promote these agendas simply hate successful people with money, whether this is bankers, business men or just those that inherit wealth, and it is out of nothing but envy with the “I can’t have it so why should you” or “you may be more intelligent than me but why should this benefit you”. Make no mistake, a lot of these people are in it for their ego, social status, popularity and scoial standing so ultimately themselves, the only difference is they just earn less.
A small few are genuinely in it to selflessly help others and promote equality, having no regard to their own income, self-importance, well-being and health. These same people are also the ones who also get ‘used’ by those, above and around them, that push the equality & entitlement agendas to further their causes. They simply become pawns or employees in a low-income game and they just don’t see it, because, they innocently or ignorantly believe everyone working with and around them sees the world with their eyes.
The rest and majority who promote these agendas simply hate successful people with money, whether this is bankers, business men or just those that inherit wealth, and it is out of nothing but envy with the “I can’t have it so why should you” or “you may be more intelligent than me but why should this benefit you”. Make no mistake, a lot of these people are in it for their ego, social status, popularity and scoial standing so ultimately themselves, the only difference is they just earn less.
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This,
Also, stop reading the daily fail.
Unless you can specifically quantify what you mean by "sense of entitlement culture" then provide some examples as to how it's increased compared to a historical base position.
I'll just assume it's more sensationalist headlines designed to turn joe public against social welfare.
But hey, if you have some facts/figures & numbers to back up these claims I'll be more than happy to take you seriously.
I could just as easily make a case against business/certain politicians who feel entitled to reap the benefits of living in a society without contributing to it's maintenance - just another care of entitlement.
The problem is people only thinking about person gain (this includes the real welfare scroungers & the tax dodgers) while ignoring the impact on society of these actions.
When any group ignores one (either benefit fraudsters, or the tax dodgers) it only highlights there inherent bias.
It should hardly be surprising - we have promoted a culture of "me me me" for the last 30 years.
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Do you have any facts or figures to support this, or do we just take this as fact that "I have worked with people who seem to live and breathe socialism, equality and self-entitlement. " as evidence that your experience is indicative of the wider population?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
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I have nothing to justify or back up here.
This is to be read as written, it wasn't a blanket statement, it was in relation to my experiences and those I have worked with.
You made the assumption that this is indicative of a wider population not me. If that is how you want to read it then feel free to go away and come back with some evidence to support your theory.
So what you are basically saying is "what I just said was only meant to be a vague description of a few people I know" - please ignore it.
OK, I will.
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Unfortunately as laws have changed to reflect this what has fallen away is the sense of duty people should have.
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You can tell how bad things have got when kids are asked if they want to be celebrities or scientists. Most answer the former.
People want instant gratification without putting the hard work in and we now have the culture of self entitlement we live in now. No wonder a lot of our jobs go to the hard working Polish rather than the ****less unemployed British. They understand that they must earn their crust.
People want instant gratification without putting the hard work in and we now have the culture of self entitlement we live in now. No wonder a lot of our jobs go to the hard working Polish rather than the ****less unemployed British. They understand that they must earn their crust.
I used to be a PR man and did a lot of work with lawyers and corporate types. Some of them were the smartest and most sensible people I have ever met and deserved their success, but most were nothing special and a substantial minority were insufferably arrogant without the talent to compensate. Their professional success could only be attributed to their background - white, southern English and privately schooled - as they never displayed any real intelligence or an aptitude for anything other than advancing their own careers.
It shows how much the media has inspired hatred of the working class that when asked about self-entitlement, most will think of those receiving £50 a week and not those who have secured professional careers after putting in only a tenth of the effort that someone from a different background would have to if they wanted the same job. Anyone who works in the law or finance and isn't an eejit themselves will know exactly the sort I am referring to - obnoxious and talentless, yet well rewarded thanks to their confidence and sense of entitlement.
The problem is that some time ago it was noticed by the west that pupils with high self esteem tended to perform better in tests & schooling, unfortunately what they failed to realise was that earned self esteem is valuable - lavishing unearned self-esteem on people breeds narcissism & selfishness.
Resulting in the exact opposite to which was intended, primarily this occurred in the states - but parts of this have bled into the European education system also.
The current jibe at the "culture of entitlement" is a pretty transparent attempt to turn the "working poor" against the "out of work poor" while those responsible for the financial meltdown continue feathering there nest.
Resulting in the exact opposite to which was intended, primarily this occurred in the states - but parts of this have bled into the European education system also.
The current jibe at the "culture of entitlement" is a pretty transparent attempt to turn the "working poor" against the "out of work poor" while those responsible for the financial meltdown continue feathering there nest.