Separate network streamer with Sonos speakers

[Stinky]

I think I’m being over kill, but can’t see to find much to tell me I am.

I like the idea of getting a network streamer, and using it as my main streaming spot. I only have Sonos speakers through the interior house which obviously works just fine with Spotify etc. so I assume a decent network stream like a arcam etc wouldn’t actually give me any advantage over using my normal Sonos or Spotify app.

Would that be right ?

Happy Christmas one and all.

 

[hornetstinger]

Could offer more, like a better app, native squeezelite, room correction, a display, high pass feature, native streaming services support, bluetooth transmitter/receiver, USB HDD support and database scanner, more inputs ability to use it as a DAC, headphone amp

But typically you'd just have another streamer for multi room, but you could use Sonos as a speaker only would be best to connect via cable, or over Wifi (not bluetooth casting)

Eversolo Play with CD option allow you to rip/encode music as well. The larger Eversolos offer NVME support, high end analogue section. tbh I'd rather prefer if they had space for an internal 3.5" SATA platter drive, ideally with isolated from vibrations and sound

Also Sonos product suck lol, with what they did months ago many people sold then off.

 

[Stinky]

Could offer more, like a better app, native squeezelite, room correction, a display, high pass feature, native streaming services support, bluetooth transmitter/receiver, USB HDD support and database scanner, more inputs ability to use it as a DAC, headphone amp

But typically you'd just have another streamer for multi room, but you could use Sonos as a speaker only would be best to connect via cable, or over Wifi (not bluetooth casting)

Eversolo Play with CD option allow you to rip/encode music as well. The larger Eversolos offer NVME support, high end analogue section. tbh I'd rather prefer if they had space for an internal 3.5" SATA platter drive, ideally with isolated from vibrations and sound

Also Sonos product suck lol, with what they did months ago many people sold then off.

I’ve never really had a problem with Sonos, it’s worked for what I need, and I have the full house of speakers.

Tv room has a full arc setup with era300s and sub
Lounge has full 5.1 with sub
Play five in the garden
Ones in all other rooms

To change al that out now would be annoying, but I wonder if a simple change to tidal might do enough for audio quality.

The only item I would connect to would be a vinyl player that’s currently connected to a very old Sonos amp.

Currently my tv room is all connected to router via cable then all uses a sonosnet to connect the rest of the house, so no issues with Bluetooth. If I got a network streamer I’d want it to control the entire house rather than just whatever is wired directly.

I liked the idea of a network streamer, but i had read on another forum people commenting that Sonos is already exactly that….

 

[hornetstinger]

yes your sonos are network streamers, it's just that specific dedicated player could offer extra features, if you need them. ie look at the £2000 Everosolo A8 master and see if that's worth it.

For myself the upgrade from a older Squeezebox streamer to a Wiim Ultra was worth it because it had room EQ, measurement, and speaker presets. Full squeezelite support was a must, which it has.

Personally the app/UI is most important for me, a Logitech Squeezebox Duet or Wiiom Pro Plus would be fine as I just use digital out.

I don't like Sonos because it's locked in, I use a raspberry Pi 4 with Picoreplayer, a LMS app on my phone, so 99% of stuff is done through that (local music playback) only initial setup and room EQ measurement/changing presets is done in the Wiim app.

Have a look at these three and determine if it's worth it

WiiM Ultra | The Ultimate Digital Hub for Your Music

The WiiM Ultra redefines your audio experience by bringing Hi-Res streaming capabilities, advanced room correction, and smart home integration to your existing setup, be it powered speakers or amplifiers. It seamlessly connects with a wide range of devices, offering a versatile audio solution.

wiimhome.com

DMP-A8 Streamers，Eversolo DMP-A8

DMP-A8 Streamers，Eversolo DMP-A8

www.eversolo.com

Eversolo Play Streaming Amplifier All in One Player

Eversolo，Play，Streaming Amplifier， All in One，Player

www.eversolo.com

I have Wiim, Squeezeboxes multi-room

For vinyl you really want a analogue amplifier, pretty much all of those products including Sonos will digitise inputs so if vinyl sound quality was important look for a stereo analogue integrated amplifier, or maybe a stereo analogue & built in DAC amplifier (those two with passive speakers) or if sticking with active speakers, stereo analogue pre amplifier (but then most active speakers will digitise inputs anyway). If you do look at a "digital" amplifier (DAC) make sure it keeps analogue inputs analogue from input to output (for your record player)

 

[Stinky]

yes your sonos are network streamers, it's just that specific dedicated player could offer extra features, if you need them. ie look at the £2000 Everosolo A8 master and see if that's worth it.

For myself the upgrade from a older Squeezebox streamer to a Wiim Ultra was worth it because it had room EQ, measurement, and speaker presets. Full squeezelite support was a must, which it has.

Personally the app/UI is most important for me, a Logitech Squeezebox Duet or Wiiom Pro Plus would be fine as I just use digital out.

I don't like Sonos because it's locked in, I use a raspberry Pi 4 with Picoreplayer, a LMS app on my phone, so 99% of stuff is done through that (local music playback) only initial setup and room EQ measurement/changing presets is done in the Wiim app.

Have a look at these three and determine if it's worth it

WiiM Ultra | The Ultimate Digital Hub for Your Music

The WiiM Ultra redefines your audio experience by bringing Hi-Res streaming capabilities, advanced room correction, and smart home integration to your existing setup, be it powered speakers or amplifiers. It seamlessly connects with a wide range of devices, offering a versatile audio solution.

wiimhome.com

DMP-A8 Streamers，Eversolo DMP-A8

DMP-A8 Streamers，Eversolo DMP-A8

www.eversolo.com

Eversolo Play Streaming Amplifier All in One Player

Eversolo，Play，Streaming Amplifier， All in One，Player

www.eversolo.com

I have Wiim, Squeezeboxes multi-room

For vinyl you really want a analogue amplifier, pretty much all of those products including Sonos will digitise inputs so if vinyl sound quality was important look for a stereo analogue integrated amplifier, or maybe a stereo analogue & built in DAC amplifier (those two with passive speakers) or if sticking with active speakers, stereo analogue pre amplifier (but then most active speakers will digitise inputs anyway). If you do look at a "digital" amplifier (DAC) make sure it keeps analogue inputs analogue from input to output (for your record player)

Thank you for that detailed reply.

Looks like I have a lot to learn!

I think I might need someone that knows properly to come look at what I have and recommend something to upgrade, I’m a rabbit in the headlights here.

 

[hornetstinger]

Thank you for that detailed reply.

Looks like I have a lot to learn!

I think I might need someone that knows properly to come look at what I have and recommend something to upgrade, I’m a rabbit in the headlights here.

Another option is keep within Sonos eco system but look at a new media server, Roon, LMS, etc

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As that'll enhance browsing experience. I've found the Wiim app and the one built in my NAS pretty awful . Try downloading this on suitable hardware, you'll be able to use it with your Sonos gear

LMS Downloads - Lyrion Music Server

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You'll need to enable this plugin once you do you will be able to select your Sonos devices, it worked on Sonos streamer I had (so integrates into my other devices) you'll be able to use a TV, AVR as a streamer too.

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