Seriously ****** off - been threatened with the police by college.

[Shock]

Right, I’ve just got back from college and I’m not happy, sorry if it's slightly long winded.

One of my tutors said she wanted to speak to me about some late work, fine. I went in, sat down and listened to what she had to say. She basically started having a go, which again, was fine, but then she brought something up:

I was told she wanted to see some work first thing in the morning. She "suggested" I don't go out tonight (because she "knows" how I like to go out on a Thursday night). At this point she told me that, if I drive to college "over the limit" again she "WILL get the police involved".

Now some background information. About two weeks ago I went out on a Thursday night to Worcester for a friend’s birthday. Whilst writing this I’ve remembered where I went and what it was I drank that night, and a rough guess to the time I did so. I can remember because I wasn't off my face, and also I never buy much in clubs because of the prices.

Half pint Stella, half bottle Smirnoff ice - 8-9ish
Pint Stella, Smirnoff ice - just before 10
2 of those dirty cheap shots - just after 10
Pint Stella - before 11
Some girly drink, VK or WKD - just after 11 (was in a club at this point, so no more drinks)

Set the scene, I was a bit merry, dancing away in this club until the early hours. Go home, crawl out of bed in the morning and drive to college a few minutes before nine. I felt a bit rough, not much sleep and probably dehydrated. When I got to college I was a couple of minutes late and the class had been let in. This same tutor asked why I was late (by about 4 minutes :/), so I apologised and said I was out last night and got up a bit late.

Some time later in the lesson she came over and spoke to me about something, and then commented on how she could "smell the booze on me", did I know I was "over the limit to drive" etc. Not much was made of it then until now.

So now I've been threatened with the police.

I don't make a habit of going out drinking the night before college; in fact this is the first time in the last six months. I’m also not some sort of trouble maker in case you think so. Yeah I’m a bit lazy and come in late occasionally, but don't most students? I’m also very quiet in lessons.

When she angrily told me this, I really had to bite my tongue. She then went and got the head of department involved and both of them were having a go. I asked her how she knows what I’d been drinking, and at what times and how she knew I wasn't fit to drive. I was then accused of lying by suggesting I wasn't over the limit.

So there’s my rant. I’m not sure if I was over the limit. I drank nothing after 12, so had 9 hours drink free. I don't understand how the system thing works so maybe someone here knows? What she could probably smell was those shots I had. It's like when you wake up the morning after and can still taste the aniseed at the top of your mouth.

Where do I stand with this? Calling me a liar? I felt like telling her **** off. I’m quite concerned at their attitude towards me. Some of my tutors do some very unprofessional things (but that’s got nothing to do with this) for people on 40k+ a year. It's taken me forever to do this post too.

Opinions please.

 

[Shock]

Did you shower / change before you went into college? Was it just on your breath?

Yes Nix just on my breath. She commented when sat about 10 inches away leaning in to where I was breathing, so it's hardly surprising.

I was running late, so had a quick wash and change of clothes. She probably wouldn't even have noticed had I have had a shower and some breakfast.

It's being called a liar I'm angry about. If I thought I was putting anyone in danger then there is no way I would drive.

As I said in my first post I don't make a habit of drinking before college. I was only a bit tipsy durinng the night too. That said, with a nine hour gap, is the reason I thought I was fine.

 

[Shock]

I've worked it out for me.

All those drinks add up to 12 units.

80mg.org.uk - On average, alcohol is metabolised and removed from the bloodstream at about one unit per hour, starting one hour after the first drink.

So for me that would start at 9.30pm. Twelve hours later at 9.30am I would have 0 units left in me. This means at 9:00 am I would have had 0.5 units.

The legal limit is 4 units (I think). Therefore, I'd have been clear and I'll make this known to the tutor, after she decided to call me a liar.

 

[Shock]

Ah, I love all the forum do-gooders.

I did ask in my first post if I was likely to be over, but no one commented, so I tried to work it out.

All the sites I've just looked at suggest you get rid of one unit per hour after the first drink, so that's what I went with. Is it accurate, who knows? I couldn't really give a ****.

I used this to work it out. Even with the extra 2.5 units for the Stella, that would still mean I was under the limit.

No doubt someone will try and prove me wrong now.

It's obvious to me that all this is very unclear. Everyone should be made to buy home tester kits or something. If I was over the limit that morning, you can guarantee many other people on this forum have probably, unknowingly done the same thing.

 

[Shock]

I am having a go at you though, Shock.

LOL.

May I ask why? I felt fine that morning, t'internet suggests I was under the limit, I had 7ish hours sleep which may also speed up the process according to Telescopi.

At this rate, all the hardcore drinkers who go on long sessions, shouldn't be allowed to touch their car for the whole weekend.

 

[Shock]

Based on one unit being processed every hour, stella being at least 3 units/pint, alcopops being 1.5 units/bottle, rounded generously:

units	time	units still in body
2.5	9	2.5
4.5	9.45	1.75 + 4.5 = 6.25
2	10.15   5.75 + 2 = 8.25
3	10.45	7.75 + 3 = 10.75
2	11.15	10.25 + 2 = 12.25

So, 12.25 units left, should take your body 12 hrs 15 mins to metabolise that lot away.

So you got up at 9, say. There are just under ten hours between that and your last drink - so you were borderline. She has a point - she may have humiliated you terribly but sometimes that's needed to get the point across.

But its one hour after the first drink, not from the last one consumed.

Did you feel safe?

I felt fine that morning

:/

If I didn't feel safe I wouldn't have drove, simple as.

 

[Shock]

Christ there is no "feeling safe", there is no bending the biological facts.

If you are driving it is your sole responsibility to work out how much you are drinking, work out what is safe, and work out a safe margin - and get enough sleep!

It is not responsible to:

a) not have a clue if you were under the limit
b) drive tired and borderline

It is also extremely silly to interpret the teacher's lecture aggressively. It's better to have heavy-handed people than people who don't care at all. (within reason, of course)

Quick, someone employ a teenager whil they still know everything.

Or maybe, when you or a close friend or someone kills someone or a close friend of yours, you will realise that it is not a game.

Talk about going around in circles. I was answering Telescopi, not using my "feeling fine and safe" as a sole reason to why I should drive.

I interpreted the lecturer as aggressive because she was aggressive and didn’t know the facts, apart from her getting a whiff of me breath.

 

[Shock]

It just doesn't add up, dude.

It does for me.

 

[Shock]

While it's obviously commendable to not drive if you don't feel safe, the converse isn't necessarily true. Just because you feel safe doesn't mean that you are, and if you get stopped, how you felt will have no bearing at all on whether you are over or under the limit and therefore whether you end up in court or not.

Talk about going around in circles. I was answering Telescopi, not using my "feeling fine and safe" as a sole reason to why I should drive.

Of course "feeling fine" is no way to judge if you should drive. But with not even being all that drunk in the first place, and then having a 9 hour gap, the thought of being over didn't even cross my mind. It appears I was under the limit anyway, but the keyboard warriors like to think otherwise.

You don't know the facts either.

You don't know the number of units, you therefore don't know if you were safe or not, you therefore don't know whether or not her suspicion was correct.

You seem very up yourself. Considering I know what I drank and at what time, I think I have more of an idea then my lecturer thanks.

It takes about an hour per unit of alcohol to get it out of the bloodstream, so I doubt you were driving sober the next morning.

I doubt that I was over the limit too.

Sounds to me like she fancies a shag with you.

 

[Shock]

Spade. Hole. Dig.

As you're having some trouble understanding, I'll take you through it slowly.

The first quote was answering another member.

Did you feel safe?

If I didn't feel safe I wouldn't have drove, simple as.

Now people like you seem to think that's my method for knowing if I'm ok after a drink? You'd be wrong:

Talk about going around in circles. I was answering Telescopi, not using my "feeling fine and safe" as a sole reason to why I should drive.

So please stop mixing around what I've said to try and make yourself look good.

The exact numbers are irrelevant. You have, Shock, perhaps repeatedly, driven under the influence of alcohol,

Don't make assumptions.

and moreover you have the audacity to get upset when someone points this out to you. All I can say is get a grip.

I think you should get of your high hoarse. In the opening post I listed the drinks and asked peoples opinions. I didn't get any so worked it out for myself. What is there to get a grip of exactly?

 

[Shock]

Of the reality that you're drinking and driving and don't seem to care in the slightest about it. I believe you meant a "high horse".

What the hell is going through your head lol? If I didn't care why would I bother trying to work out if I should have drove or not?

That morning two weeks ago, I had to be up early and it didn't cross my mind. I could have been over, but it looks like I wasn't. This thread has also made me and a few others aware of just how long it takes alcohol to leave the system. I really can't see what you're problem is with me.

As for you saying "the reality that i've been drinking and driving". Do you know something I don't? Lets give it a rest. I'm not some child killer.

 

[Shock]

Aye I'm not disputing the fact more care is needed on my part. Hopefully I won't have to drive after a night out again, but if I do, I shall remember this thread.

Beansprout, don't think I have a problem with you, just wasn't happy with the know it all comment. Even though I do.

As to why I wasn't more careful in the first place - I genuinly thought I'd be fine after 9 hours after such few drinks, my mistake.

I still think the nosey cow should mind her own business, telling me when and when I can't go out. Pff.