Seriously, WTH is wrong with China?

China, the same nation that's ok with putting live reptiles in vending machines and skinning animals alive? You think they're going to be worried about dropping Tiger numbers?

The nation needs nuked from orbit before any change in mentality happens.
 
If every person in china partook in such activities then there wouldn't be any tigers left. Stop reading propaganda pieces and labelling everyone in China.

shifty_uk said:
China, the same nation that's ok with putting live reptiles in vending machines and skinning animals alive? You think they're going to be worried about dropping Tiger numbers?

The nation needs nuked from orbit before any change in mentality happens.
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Hahaha, funny guy. Portraying the culturally ignorant stereotype.
 
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diamount said:
If every person in china partook in such activities then there wouldn't be any tigers left. Stop reading propaganda pieces and labelling everyone in China.
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It is perfectly acceptable to say that China - taken as a whole - has an almost total disregard for life.

Does that mean everybody in China is the same? No. But the government and the people taken as a whole are guilty of horrific abuses both of human rights and of gross animal cruelty and decline of endangered species.

This is not propaganda. We see enough of China not just in the news, but on YouTube and everywhere else. You won't win any sympathy for China by denying it has problems, or pretending that only a few people in China support these practices.

This is what I mean by social media giving an insight in Chinese mentality:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1875517/pg1

Pretty vile, don't you agree?
 
G|mp said:
Imagine a Chinese man has just killed a tiger for his eyes and then asked you to show him how to use Tivo.

How would that make you feel?
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LOL

d_brennen said:
It's only relevant to "us" because it is. Why is one animal any more worthy than any other? Culture. The west sneer at the savage foreigners killing animal X for reason Y when "we" put millions of animals to death for food (a huge amount of which is not even eaten), clothing, furniture etc
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Yes differences in attitude between China and the west are obviously culturally based but that does not mean they are somehow beyond scrutiny. Cultural practices can be changed both negatively and hopefully in this instance, positively. We can only act from our own perspective. Also, you are confusing farming for food/leather with a species being pointlessly hunted to near extinction. And cows/sheep are not going to be extinct anytime soon
 
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FoxEye said:
It is perfectly acceptable to say that China - taken as a whole - has an almost total disregard for life.

Does that mean everybody in China is the same? No. But the government and the people taken as a whole are guilty of horrific abuses both of human rights and of gross animal cruelty and decline of endangered species.

This is not propaganda. We see enough of China not just in the news, but on YouTube and everywhere else. You won't win any sympathy for China by denying it has problems, or pretending that only a few people in China support these practices.

This is what I mean by social media giving an insight in Chinese mentality:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1875517/pg1

Pretty vile, don't you agree?
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I'm asking where these facts are based on. If the majority of China's 1.2 billion people decided to buy tiger wine, even their 300+ million middle class then that would be shown with an dangerously amount of tigers being poached.

Regardless, I'm not even going to bother clicking that link giving its source. +
 
diamount said:
I'm asking where these facts are based on. If the majority of China's 1.2 billion people decided to buy tiger wine, even their 300+ million middle class then that would be shown with an dangerously amount of tigers being poached.

Regardless, I'm not even going to bother clicking that link giving its source. +
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What sources would you accept? You seem to have already made up your mind that China isn't endangering anything.
 
http://www.asiabiotech.com/publication/apbn/11/english/preserved-docs/1117n18/1196_1197.pdf

You really don't have to look hard for literally hundred of articles which all say the same thing.

They can't all be propaganda!

In June 2007, China announced
a plan to lift the trade ban on
tiger parts at the Convention on
International Trade in Endangered
Species (CITES). This move was
met by criticisms and concerns from
India, Nepal, Bhutan and Indonesia,
where wild tiger population had
drastically dropped in the recent
years due to extensive poaching. In
addition to its use as an ornament,
nearly every body part of the tiger is
believed to be a powerful ingredient
in TCM
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It is the ridiculous belief that ground up animal parts can heal human ailments which is dooming these species.
 
Again, I'm not disputing the fact its not happening. But if it's such a widespread thing as the media outlets make it out to be. As I said before, supply increases with demand and there hasn't been a major increase in animal poaching due to Chinese demand or it would be more noticeable.
 
diamount said:
Again, I'm not disputing the fact its not happening. But if it's such a widespread thing as the media outlets make it out to be. As I said before, supply increases with demand and there hasn't been a major increase in animal poaching due to Chinese demand or it would be more noticeable.
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So if the demand isn't there like you say, why does stuff like this happen?

http://news.mongabay.com/2013/0415-hance-pangolin-coral.html

Guess what those were for... Traditional Chinese Medicine.

Different species, same problem. The demand in China is big enough for trade in these endangered species to be highly profitable.

Maybe not all of Chinas 1 billion population practices TCM. But enough do to make it worth the risk to these poachers. Prices for endangered animals parts reported to be huge on the black market.

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and a soup made with pangolin fetus is considered a delicacy

China is a digrace :mad:
 
some of the stories i've heard about chinese zoo's lead me to believe it wouldn't be a fun family day out.

has anyone posted the vid of the bear eating the monkey yet?
 
I blame the legacy of British colonialism and residual racism for all of China's problems. Who knows how many centuries we set them back with colonial exploitation.
 
i read about the keyrings a few years ago. absoloutely retarded how anyone can think that is the right thing to do. the salamander is an incredible creature in particular.

i have just read another story about 9 crocodiles being stoned to death by visitors in a chinese zoo because they weren't moving. they were hibernating.

dear oh dear.
 
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