Setting up a microwave Internet link?

stockhausen

stockhausen

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Last week I got talking (in a pub) to someone who lives in a fairly remote location in Scotland to which BT is unable or unwilling provide an Internet connection at a reasonable figure. He said that he had arranged a microwave link from a nearby village. His link also acts as a hub for some nearby houses.

The conversation moved on to other things and I never thought to ask either how he had done this or how much it had cost - I should have done so!

Has anyone here done this or knows anything about how to do it?
 
5GHz is license free, 60GHz is mostly license free and the licenses aren't expensive because the distance that a signal with such a short wavelength will travel is very low.


Equipment vendors to look out for are Cambium, Mikrotik, Ubiquiti, Mimosa, Siklu.
 
Hotwired said:
I'm thinking you would need a licence to transmit like that . . .
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Uhmm, good point. I remember many years ago I wanted to string an Ethernet cable between rooftops on a warehouse and an office block over a public road and discovered that I wasn't actually allowed to do so.

I will have to check out the 5GHz license free and 60GHz mostly license free solutions although it may not apply in the UK?
 
Is it purely academic, do you want to be an ISP, do you just want a point-to-point between too sites etc.

It’s a potentially massive topic so an idea of your intentions would help.
 
Caged said:
Is it purely academic, do you want to be an ISP, do you just want a point-to-point between too sites etc. It’s a potentially massive topic so an idea of your intentions would help.
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I do understand that it is a "potentially massive topic". I definitely don't want to be an ISP. It is academic in the sense that I have no immediate, current application.

Someone asked me (informally) some time ago whether this was possible. I said "No" at the time and wonder now if I was incorrect and can perhaps suggest a realistic means of supplying an Internet connection to a remote location - specifically a farmhouse. I would not be doing any of the actual work, just suggesting an approach.

Hyburnate said:
I've got a few deployed. What's the actual question because every scenario is different?
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Please see above :)
 
There was a thread here where somebody got Virgin Media to install a second link at someone’s house and then beamed it to their house a few hundred metres away. I’ve not got the time to find the thread at the moment but that might jog someone’s memory.
 
stockhausen said:
I do understand that it is a "potentially massive topic". I definitely don't want to be an ISP. It is academic in the sense that I have no immediate, current application.

Someone asked me (informally) some time ago whether this was possible. I said "No" at the time and wonder now if I was incorrect and can perhaps suggest a realistic means of supplying an Internet connection to a remote location - specifically a farmhouse. I would not be doing any of the actual work, just suggesting an approach.

Please see above :)
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You need Line of Sight. You can do 2.4GHz, 5, 60 etc there is quite a bit of technology out there. But, with more throughput comes the need for perfect LoS. You can blast 2.4 and 5 through a little bit of trees and be okay (don't recommend it though).

But yes, if you have LoS you can do it :) oh and you can do it over quite a distance too, I've got one that's going about 6k at the moment. And that's fairly short in the world of wireless links.
 
My day to day job is network management for a large wireless internet provider. I deal with all tech, 5Ghz licenced and unlicensed, 13,15,18Ghz licenced, 24Ghz unlicensed, 60Ghz and 80Ghz.

If you give a lat/Lon for both ends I'll give you a few quick options
 
Steveocee said:
If you give a lat/Lon for both ends I'll give you a few quick options
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Stop perving on unsuspecting forum members fresnel zones ;)

In all fairness multi km links are reasonably inexpensive with a decent LoS and assuming you have a clear fresnel zone, it’s when you have trees in the way and have to drop to 800Mhz and break out the chainsaw that things get interesting, especially if they aren’t your trees :D
 
Avalon said:
Stop perving on unsuspecting forum members fresnel zones ;)

In all fairness multi km links are reasonably inexpensive with a decent LoS and assuming you have a clear fresnel zone, it’s when you have trees in the way and have to drop to 800Mhz and break out the chainsaw that things get interesting, especially if they aren’t your trees :D
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or airports... lol wish I was joking.
 
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