Shall i get a PS3?
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That is very cool, and very unlike Sony who let's face it tend to avoid anything that's no proprietry to them, memory sticks etc for example. Having said that it's a great way for them to stick two fingers up at MS
There are so many debatable point sin your post that it is hard to now where to start (the long post with all the points in it).
It's hard to compare features with you when you have no criterea.
Examples:
7)The ability to upgrade your hard drive using standard third party 2.5" Sata drives. Doable on the 360 as well although it's not particularly straight forward. Not necessarily a massively big deal as the 360 doesn't really rely on drive storage and you can use an external USB drive for music/pictures/video. Marginal PS3 advantage?
How is that marginal advantage?
9) The ability to use third party steering wheels & Headsets. Same on the 360 - Draw
How is that a draw (It is misinformed more than anything).
14)The ability to remote control your PS3 from your PSP, now with the added audio out via PS3 during remote play you don't even need to turn on your TV, you can essentially use your PSP as an advanced remote control to use your PS3 as a high quality Hi-Fi component. Needs you to spend a wedge on a PSP though, although useful I suppose if you already have one. 360 allows any MP3 player, including iPod, to be plugged in and playback being the closest 360 comparisson I guess. Draw?
ipod functionality on 360 compared to psp functionality on ps3, a Draw? Weird?
I don't care really, but at least post stuff that you have researched (I am quite sure there are more inconsistencies in your post, but those 3 stuck out at initial glance).
rp2000
I dunno, maybe it's a bit of an advantage but given on the 360 it wouldn't effect your gaming or media replay experience, and you can achieve the same thing with an external HDD for media storage, I can't see it's a massive advantage for the PS3 over a 360. They work in diffent ways, and although you're limited to 120mb you can upgrade with a standard SATA drive on 360 rather than buy the official upgrade if you really want to. I guess it is handy to keep all the drive space internal I suppose, hence I guessed at it being a marginal advantage for the PS3.
I don't follow you, you can also get third party steering wheels and headsets for the 360. As both consoles do the same thing I said it's a draw on that point. Did i miss something, other than to use a standard 2.5mm headset on 360 you need a £4 adapter or of course you can just use any of the third party 360 specific headsets?
Why weird, the OP mentioned you could play music back from the PS3 from a PSP, although not wireless you can do the same on the 360 from any mp3 player and in particular the worlds best selling player, the iPod. It's not really a direct comparisson but as you would have to spend a fair chunk of money on a PSP to get this functionality I figured it was close enough to get a flavour.
It seems you do care and I did caveat at the start that I may have got things wrong, what's with the attitude? I'm happy to change anything if it's absolutely wrong, they are just my comments fwiw...
/shrug...
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I think you have misunderstood my post.
On point 1 I think it is a huge advantage, not marginal that you can connect a huge internal hdd. Also are you aware that the 360 usb HDD can not have no way near the same type or content media s the ps3? Hence to me large advantage.
On point 2 I meant there is a vast amount of third party wheels that do not work on the 360 and the opposite on ps3. Again, huge advantage.
On point 3 I cannot understand how connecting an ipod physically to your 360 compared to the psp functions (music and audio compared to ipods audio only) and the fact it is wireless in your LAN or over the Internet are a huge mile apart. Not a Draw in my view.
What I meant was you are not comparing like for like in some areas, fairly. By not quoting properly perhaps it is not explained very well. Also I ignored your caveat as tbh you can't type that long a post and then say (actually some of this may be wrong!!, well you can, but you know what I mean).
Trust me, I don't care, else I would have posted as many times as you have in this thread (with as many edits). I just hate seeing disinformation.
rp2000
On point 1 I think it is a huge advantage, not marginal that you can connect a huge internal hdd. Also are you aware that the 360 usb HDD can not have no way near the same type or content media s the ps3? Hence to me large advantage.
On point 2 I meant there is a vast amount of third party wheels that do not work on the 360 and the opposite on ps3. Again, huge advantage.
On point 3 I cannot understand how connecting an ipod physically to your 360 compared to the psp functions (music and audio compared to ipods audio only) and the fact it is wireless in your LAN or over the Internet are a huge mile apart. Not a Draw in my view.
What I meant was you are not comparing like for like in some areas, fairly. By not quoting properly perhaps it is not explained very well. Also I ignored your caveat as tbh you can't type that long a post and then say (actually some of this may be wrong!!
, well you can, but you know what I mean).Trust me, I don't care, else I would have posted as many times as you have in this thread (with as many edits). I just hate seeing disinformation.
rp2000
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It's not really disinformation though is it, it's relatively light hearted points which for the sake of comparisson on a forum are pretty accurate. Steering wheels for example, you say i'm wrong based on how many third party wheels are available. I could argue with the quility of the likes of the MS and logitech offerings why would 10 not so good wheels being available be a huge advantage?
Without wanting to offen anyone (more
)I coudl argue that the PSP is an expensive failure, largely abandoned by the games and movie publishers. Although talking to the PS3 if you already have one makes for an advantage I don't, personaly, think it's a massive one for the majority of people.
I tend to spell poorly and sometimes don't explain myself very well when I post so I go back and edit after reading it again, I try to highlight where I have if i've changed the context of what i've said. Sorry if you find that a problem
To be honest i think you're just trying to pick holes, but having said that if those things make a massive difefrence for you then the PS3 is your choice. /shrug
Without wanting to offen anyone (more
)I coudl argue that the PSP is an expensive failure, largely abandoned by the games and movie publishers. Although talking to the PS3 if you already have one makes for an advantage I don't, personaly, think it's a massive one for the majority of people.
Music AND audio eh? cool (just kidding)
For the external USB HDD on the 360 1TB of Divx, XviD, VC1, WMA, WMV, MP3, Jpg, GIF, MPG1 & 2 is fine for me, not sure what your point is tbh, I'm sure there are other unsupported formats but that covers pretty much everything i'm going to use.
I had to chuckle as you're, I guess, suggesting that editing my posts is a bad thing, although you've edited your own post
I tend to spell poorly and sometimes don't explain myself very well when I post so I go back and edit after reading it again, I try to highlight where I have if i've changed the context of what i've said. Sorry if you find that a problem
To be honest i think you're just trying to pick holes, but having said that if those things make a massive difefrence for you then the PS3 is your choice. /shrug
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Lol Glad you changed the colour!
Some 360 Pro's not mentioned (and in no particular order).
All this is coming to the PS3 in the Summer, as for online play its there when it has to be. For example uncharted had no online play but nor did Bioshock as it wouldnt really fit the gameplay.
PS3 has parental controls
Nope not as yet but trophies are coming with home
Pretty much the same as PSN TBH, but with PSN they dont only have the HD remakes or puzzle games, they also have much larger and nearly full games Warhark, GT5P, Socom and wipeout HD. They also have PS1 one games to download for use with your PS3 or PSP.
Know this for sure or just a guess? Even so the PS3 could easily be made to work with external wifi dongles.
un official one is here already for PS3 official one coming soon.
Dual shock 3 out in UK in May, can be purchased on line from overseas.
PS3 cant do this (yet)
The PS3 has webcam and voice chat out of game, it can also use anywebcam not just the Sony Eye (like the 360 cam lol), dont think it can leave voice messages though.
PS3 can playback ipod folders but its very clumsy and not that user friendly
Well with Play TV the PS3 will take the place of the PC, and all its content is DRM free so can be copied to a Pc, iPod, Ext HDD etc
All these are due to the 360 being out a year earlier than the PS3, but the PS3 has these but not as abundant
Insert random PS3 exclusive here lol!
Can be done via gamespy on the PS3 (included with UE3 ) but not implemented yet, The agency out this year will also be a cross platform game.
Excellent idea, the PS3 has a third party one but is noway near as good
According to people who have used it, it is far from fully featured more like top up TV
Apart from the sixaxis having motion control, rumors say Sony has a "waggle wand" also out this year, but i hope they dont!!
Not sure ive heard of anyone hacking into an online PS3 game, most issues when found are patched though. Not quite the same as the tight (some may so overly so) controls of XBL though.
Hope that help you out a bit on your mostly informative post, i guess you will reply in turn though.
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Im just going to mention one point. PSNarcade (or whatever they call it) is VASTLY inferior to XBLA. Most games don't even let you preview the game you're buying. How are you meant to know whether its good? Lots of people have mentioned pixeljunk racers on here to me, but I have no idea whether I would like it. I can't believe Sony have missed out on such an obvious and simple feature.
Great points, and the kind of conversation I was hoping to have.
I should have been a bit clearer about one thing, the 360 pro's i listed weren't necessarily 360 exclusive, just that it was stuff it did I thought worthy of mention.
I still think as consoles they are very close in capability and it really comes down to which aspects are more important to you at any point. I guess where I cam in was the 360 was being painted as an OK gaming console with poor media capabilities. I just wanted to point out it's a pretty good all rounder, especially if you have a PC.
You could argue that the 360 advantage in gaming library is counteracted by PS3 being a year later and being able to include features that whilst initialy expensive, were "improved" over the older 360 implementation.
In any case the close competition is good for consumers, I hate to think what we'd have got from Sony if it hadn't had Xbox and later Wii to compete with.
I should have been a bit clearer about one thing, the 360 pro's i listed weren't necessarily 360 exclusive, just that it was stuff it did I thought worthy of mention.
I still think as consoles they are very close in capability and it really comes down to which aspects are more important to you at any point. I guess where I cam in was the 360 was being painted as an OK gaming console with poor media capabilities. I just wanted to point out it's a pretty good all rounder, especially if you have a PC.
You could argue that the 360 advantage in gaming library is counteracted by PS3 being a year later and being able to include features that whilst initialy expensive, were "improved" over the older 360 implementation.
In any case the close competition is good for consumers, I hate to think what we'd have got from Sony if it hadn't had Xbox and later Wii to compete with.
vastly? seriously? you've used psn and found this to be the case then? There's also plenty of games that do have demo versions available.
Wrong ...psn titles are far superior to xbla.
Full downloadable games!! Warhawk, Tekken 5, GT5P, SSHD, psn may have less titles but the titles there are far better than the quick and cheap 70's and 80's arcade ports.
Demo's are overrated and can be misleading sometimes ..... if unsure wait for a review and talk to friends who may have bought it.
All the plans for ps3 were cemented before the 360 was revealed ... if anything the competition helped lower price quicker ... and not much else.
I think 360 owners should be more thankful to sony for showing MS how to launch a console brand .... a years headstart and cheapest console first ( exclude wii from this ) are all sony's strategy for ps2 ( nintendo and not sega were sony's main rival last gen ...before anyone says dreamcast launched first ... sega were already dead before dreamcast launched ).
Wow, you really have got a Sony loyalty thing going on haven't you. Jeeze, it's just a console.
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Where exactly?
Just went on Gamerankings and there isn't even an entry for pixeljunk racers. Without demos, what else is there to go on? I trust people on here, but in the end we might just have different tastes. And saying the XBLA just has 70's and 80's ports is just stupid, there are many great titles on there. I have at least 10 and probably another 10 I'd quite like. Sure full games is a nice feature, no arguments here. But you must see how every XBLA games having a playable trial (sometimes multiplayer) is a superior system to one which doesn't?
Aww buddy ... I never owned a ps2, xbox or gamecube. The last console I owned before this gen was a N64 as I got into pc gaming.
It was the 360 that pulled me back in, and I love that console. I trolled ps3 posts for ages, saying it was too expensive, blu ray was not needed etc.
When I got a ps3 though, it smacked of quality. Less games was a given as it was just out and a year behind 360.
No I don't give a flying **** about sony, just hate seeing people talk rubbish about something they seem to know nothing about ..... I have been playing games for over 20 years and have had this fanboy war stuff through c64 and speccy, amiga and st, nintendo and sega, sony nintendo and sega and eventually sony ms and nintendo.
Hypocritical much?
Not at all, I have a PC, Wii and 360 for gaming and i've already said if the PS3 becomes a compelling proposition in the future I'll buy one of those as well.
/shrug
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Ahhh, now that explains an awful lot.... Different console, same posting style
Right.Nice contribution to a debate that has been good natured and quite intelligent for a change ( that includes me by the way
Pretty much rephrased:
Thats exactly how it reads due to the smug smarmy way in which it is written.
im confused as to what to buy, got a highend pc and a wii but want GTA4 but dont know what console to get. not bothered about all the bs surrounding each console all it does is cloud by judgement.
do i just get cheapest? or is ps3 worth the xtra money for BR, can 360 provide on the media front?
arrrghhh its doing my head in
do i just get cheapest? or is ps3 worth the xtra money for BR, can 360 provide on the media front?
arrrghhh its doing my head in
Either will bring you happiness. I would personally just go with what you think gives the most value.