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Shall I wait for Ryzen 4000

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Hi all

Just a quick question regarding Ryzen CPU's,

I get paid on tomorrow and I'm considering the Ryzen 3600 however I'm not sure when Ryzen 4000 series is being released so not sure what move to make..

Shall I just get a Ryzen 2600 for around £90 and have that as I stop gap until ryzen 4000

Or

Go for the Ryzen 3600 and keep that for a year or so?

Any help appreciated

Thanks
 
Sounds like you need a system now, but what is it going to be used for?

Ryzen 4000 doesn't bring anything revolutionary, hoping only for a performance bump.

If you are after max performance, wait.
 
alec said:
Sounds like you need a system now, but what is it going to be used for?

Ryzen 4000 doesn't bring anything revolutionary, hoping only for a performance bump.

If you are after max performance, wait.
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It's mainly a gaming machine so I need as much performance as I can from one of those CPU's, if Ryzen 4000 isn't going to be much different from the 3600 then I'll go for that
 
The 3600 will be fine, might get up to 15% more IPC performance in certain circumstances with 4000.

I've just bought a 3900X, not waiting on 4000 for a potential upgrade :)
 
Zen 3-based Ryzen desktop isn't likely until near the end of the year, so I'd get a system now and build a good foundation. Even the new AMD and Nvidia graphics cards due this year aren't likely to fully maximise the benefits of PCIe 4 so you're probably not missing anything by not going X570 for the motherboard. B550 is coming soon, but soon is not right now.

Standard motherboard recommendations are the B450 Tomahawk MAX and B450 Mortar MAX from MSI.

Gaming performance-wise, a 3600 or 3600X should be plenty for now. The gaming performance deficit to Intel is largely negligible in real-world cases, and certainly for the money you save going Ryzen then those 5-15% losses mean nothing. Zen 3 is expected to actually take the single thread and gaming crown until Intel's Golden Cove lands on desktop, so if you do see performance dips with your 6 core Zen 2 you have the strong foundation to move to an 8 or 12 core Zen 3 end of this year or early next year.

tl;dr grab a B450 Tomahawk MAX, 3600MHz DDR4 with Micron E die (easy to clock and tune) and the 3600X and you're flying until next year where you will have upgrade options, if you even need them.
 
What extra you'd get from 4000 upgrade is a proposed 15% performance increase through latency reductions.

Due to CV-19 I wouldn't hold your breath for 4000 series any time soon. You could always swap out and drop a 4000 series in later if they matter that much more to whatever you are doing. 3600 or 3600X are best bang for buck CPU's going.

Gamer stuck at home, money to burn, go for 3600/X - as a gamer - a no brainer. Get some 3600Mhz native RAM to go with it and you'll be golden for a good while.

As for whether you go 3600 or 3600X - the lower your resolution you game at the more difference the 'X' will make. 1440p and above - single digit FPS difference. Post your monitor specs up.
 
LePhuronn said:
Zen 3-based Ryzen desktop isn't likely until near the end of the year, so I'd get a system now and build a good foundation. Even the new AMD and Nvidia graphics cards due this year aren't likely to fully maximise the benefits of PCIe 4 so you're probably not missing anything by not going X570 for the motherboard. B550 is coming soon, but soon is not right now.

Standard motherboard recommendations are the B450 Tomahawk MAX and B450 Mortar MAX from MSI.

Gaming performance-wise, a 3600 or 3600X should be plenty for now. The gaming performance deficit to Intel is largely negligible in real-world cases, and certainly for the money you save going Ryzen then those 5-15% losses mean nothing. Zen 3 is expected to actually take the single thread and gaming crown until Intel's Golden Cove lands on desktop, so if you do see performance dips with your 6 core Zen 2 you have the strong foundation to move to an 8 or 12 core Zen 3 end of this year or early next year.

tl;dr grab a B450 Tomahawk MAX, 3600MHz DDR4 with Micron E die (easy to clock and tune) and the 3600X and you're flying until next year where you will have upgrade options, if you even need them.
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Cheers mate some good information there... My B450 mortar max board is due for delivery in about half hour so just looking for the right CPU choice to order tomorrow... I'm glad to hear I'm not going to miss much in the early days of the new Ryzen CPU's.. The rest of the system is looking spot on and strong for time to come

Thanks for your help in choosing
 
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