Ship geeks in ere - US Carrier in UK

Flukester · 6 Apr 2009 at 18:30

Dont know if anyone knows or is interested, there is currently a US carrier strikegroup moored just off Portsmouth coast though not sure what other ships are there, i think one of the escorts is moored by dockyard.

USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN71, leaves on 8th i think, but you can get tours round the ship (not onboard though) from gun wharf by rib or bigger ship....

Might have to go check this beast out all 100,000 tons of her, she's only 5 times the size of one of our toy carriers

Some photos here...

http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=7885&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=75

Flukester · 6 Apr 2009 at 18:35

Azagoth said:
We don't have "toy carriers".

no they are through deck cruisers

edit: but we're getting some proper ones soon

Flukester · 6 Apr 2009 at 18:48

lucasade1 said:
Yeah... all 2 of them

2 is plenty, 5 * the planes than our current 2, and with the new f35s i hate to think how much more strike power we'll have... cant wait

Flukester · 6 Apr 2009 at 19:57

can anyone identify these planes...

http://www.portviewfitout.co.uk/ukar/TR-05.jpg

i know the others are F18s, but what are these ?, surely not back end of 'prowlers', I thought they were all long gone.

Flukester · 6 Apr 2009 at 20:00

lucasade1 said:
Which is such a shame, the navy seems to be heading into an era of brilliant ships, but fewer actually being built under the argument of being more powerful than the older classes.

then again, no other navy outside USN can field ships of this size, but we will soon be only other nation with super carriers, actually makes me feel very proud.

i heard they were pushing back completion date because they didn't want to use harriers and instead go from the start with the F35s on order.

not sure if we have enough harriers to fill them both

Flukester · 12 Apr 2009 at 14:56

Ricochet J said:
True. HMS Churchill and HMS Trafalger I wouldn't have minded if they wanted to rename after people.

I also think we should retake our rights to HMS Enterprize

I believe there is a USS Winston Churchill already

Flukester · 12 Apr 2009 at 15:00

peetee said:
im for carriers, but they're cannon fodder for submarines, just like anything else in the water..
missiles are not the be all and end all either, a full CAG can deal with a lot of incoming targets.

not really, for one any carrier in operation would have type45 with it and running awacs cover, that pretty much eliminates any problems from surface / airborne threats..

then i'm sure we would have a sub assigned also to battle group (astute ?), and no possible enemy in the world today is gonna sneak a sub up into range very easily
most possible enemy forces are running aged diesels at very best, let alone proper blue water sub fleets with the latest tech

the above all makes threats to our carriers quite low... look at how many operations US carriers have been in in modern times, none have been hit by anything.