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Any network security professionals that think an end to end encryption system which also publishes all messages in plain text (without user intervention/choice) to a third party is not an oxymoron.

Post your linkin profiles below, I'm sure we can drum up a lot of work for you,both in Academia and in Business, hey UK business I can make your lan available via the internet and to some third party if you hire me...
 
haha - someone needs attention....

still if you didnt understand the big words I'm sure someone will be along with the kids version if you wait long enough.... until then insist you know what you know what you are on about enough times and people will start to believe you

Jim nothing you have posted suggests you could explain the difference between an SSL VPN and an L2TP IPSEC VPN. Frankly your post was along the lines of E2EE occurs and then the clever network guys sort it out.

If you want to make the case for End to End Encryption that also copies a plain text version to a third party, despite the it being contrary to the definition, I fully urge you to add your linked in profile and sell that to business clients.

In my dated experience, the UKHO, Ordnance Survey and our other clients would not have been interested!
 
Oh jeeze... OP, you were wrong, it was shown quite clearly why you were wrong. I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to prove but seemingly it is bothering you a bit.

So feel free to post your linked in, and provide security advice on the basis that end to end encryption would include a plain text version to a third party.
 
On the basis of the thread title and post I'm astounded anyone has the balls to post to it.

Would love to see a supposed security professional put their name to the concept that end to end encryption systems would include plain text logs to a third party, have at it!
 
you can disable it



not particularly, it just means that theUS govt/law enforcement might be able to get a court order to look at the backup(and perhaps UK,Can,Aus etc..). Anyone else who might have wanted to snoop on you is still pretty much screwed unless they can break into your google drive.

As you well Know Dowie.
At no point have I questioned if Whats App offers End To End Encryption.

I have stated that a System that Enforced a plain text version of all messages be available to a third party is not End to End Encryption.
You and others have disputed that fact, I'd like to see you stand by those statements professionally.
 
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