Should I move to AMD?

[Author_25]

I have always bought Intel and for my last build bought a 12600K and a Z690 motherboard and planned to upgrade the CPU later on, once they reduced in price, ideally it would have been a 14700K, but given the issues with 14th Gen and Intel's response I am considering AMD for the first time.

I would probably go for a 7800X3D/9800X3D CPU with a B850 motherboard, when released.

I know Ryzen is not without its issues, notably memory speeds and training times, but nothing that damages the CPU, and the long lifespan of AMD sockets is a plus.

Would this be a wise move or should I just stick to Intel and hope for the best?

 

[Author_25]

you have 1 of 2 options

1 - stay on 12th gen and ride out this 13/14th gen issue then upgrade to a 14th gen later than expected. (Stick to buying a new processor rather than 2nd hand to avoid a duff CPU)
2 - Change to an AMD system

What do you use the PC for and what res etc do you have? I am assuming more gaming than anything else as you picked a X3D CPU

Mainly used for gaming.

 

[Author_25]

Depends on the graphics card. RTX 3070~ or above is getting into X3D territory. Anything RDNA is a lot more forgiving on system requirements until you get to very highend.

I am on a GTX 1070, COVID and Crypto prices delayed upgrades, then not happy with 4000 series, but will upgrade to 5070/5080 once released.

 

[Author_25]

might as well hold on till 5070/5080 release, 1070 will be holding back 12600k and any cpu upgrade

Agree, I was thinking any new build would be the new year, but I like to start planning early. My 1070 does hold back the CPU, and my original plan was to get a 4070 but I felt the price was not worth what was offered, and £800 for a 4070Ti was definitely not worth it, and decided to hold out for the 5000 series, unless something broke.

Normally once I build a system I keep it for a good 6-8 years, with upgrades here and there, but this time around I feel the upgrade path, CPU wise is no longer a safe route, and AM5 will be a better bet, in the long term, and I no longer have confidence in Intel and Skt 1851 CPUs.

 

[Author_25]

You don’t sound confident in AMD, just go with Intel for you.

Never owned an AMD CPU so it does make me a bit hesitant.

 

[Author_25]

I was planning the 14700K as my next upgrade but the Intel 0x129 Microcode update takes a reasonable size hit in the 14700K's performance.

Also, after reading the reviews fo all the latest Ryzen 9000 series CPUs they have hardly inspired me, other than not being Intel, but there is still the 9800X3D to go.

Its looking like take a risk on the Intel 14th Gen and there possible fix, with its performance hit, or go previous Gen, with AMD if the 9800X3D is "meh".

 

[Author_25]

its hard to tell you 100% and staying with intel will have some element of risk. But looking around its certainly not 50% of the intel chips that some are speculating as dying. Its difficult to say what the exact number is and it most likely we will never know, not in the immediate future. There are many with 14th gen intel processor on this board and have no issues. I suspect its a small percentage and they are trying to address the issue with updates.

The way I see it, intel will replace the CPU if its dies because of this issue so if you buy brand new you are covered for 3 years anyway. If you are going to upgrade in 3 years time then really not worth worrying about because resale of CPU in 3 years is not going to be much anyway toward your new system. If you however want to keep the system for lets say 5, 6 or 7 years then it might be best to jump platforms.

you have to decide if you can be bothered with the hassle of selling your current gear and upgrading vs just dropping a chip straight into motherboard you currently have. If you were buying 100% new then by all means go AMD but since you have RAM and Motherboard just don't see the point unless you can recoup most of your cost of upgrading to new system by selling your current stuff.

me myself I would just risk it and not worry too much about it, specially if intel will honour the warranty.

I like longevity and though Intel had short term socket life they were stable and reliable and I could trust them to stand the test of time. After a few years the Skt1700 parts will get hardto source and that usually leads to 2nd hand parts but a 2nd habd 13th or 14th Gen CPU can no longer be trusted.

I love to build PCs it my favorite part so no hassle for me just pure joy.

Given the lacklustre performance of the the Ryzen 9000 series I have not ben to impressed but updates oftem work wonders for AM, look at the isses with the Ryzen 7000 series, a year later BIOS and other updates resolved them.

I am leaning towards an AMD replacement and Intel advice, regarding warranty claims was basically, if we reject you keep trying until we dont, which further undermines my once rock solid confidence in Intel.

 

[Author_25]

That is part of my quandary are the issues, on 13th/14th Gen just the initial issues, or are there other problems that will appear, in a year or two, by which point will Intel just ignore the issues, or blame the motherboard manufacturers, as they did this time, and use new platforms to bury the issues.

 

[Author_25]

THe lackluster performance of the Ryzen 9000 series has not inspired but no stability issues so a plus. May just wait on the X870/B860 motherboards to se if any uplift but if I move to AMD, unless the 9800X3D is stellar may go Ryzen 7000 series and a X870/B860 motherboard and wait on Ryzen 11.

The last few years, whether CPU or GPU, seem to be over hyped and then an utter let down.

 

[Author_25]

In fairness the 5800 x3d and 7800 x3ds seem to have been pretty decent

I agree but they feel more like the exception rather than the rule.

Feels like companies will turn out anything and then slap some RGB on it and a few extra letters to the name and expect everyone to run out and buy it, thats how we got to the Intel Stability debacle, basically the 13th and 14th Gens were nothing more that souped up 12th Gen, that appears could not take the extra voltage as the ring bus design had reached its limit on 12th Gen.

 

[Author_25]

AMD does seem to the better option, at present, just because there CPUs use less power so less chance of voltage/power issues and stability issues, and they are actively trying to lower CPU power usage.