Show us your kitty cats

FoxEye said:
I'm only regurgitating what the experts have said many, many times. Which I believe is what I said :p

Not all breeders are reputable, wouldn't you agree? Heck, there are tons of people "breeding" cats from a spare room in their house, and the level of knowledge such "breeders" have is going to be less than some of us in this thread!

Don't take it from me. Take it from all the veterinary associations. Or just don't agree full stop :p I'm sure some random on the internet knows better than the trained vets :p See, I can make dismissive comments too :p

http://www.gccfcats.org/Welfare
http://leirumragdolls.webs.com/buyingakitten.htm
http://www.russianblue.org.uk/kitts.html
http://www.siameseplanet.co.uk/choosing_breeder.htm

I could go on and on and on with these links... because it's well established that 13 weeks and under kittens need to be with their mums.
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Super dismissive comment: Generally, I've found that the majority of the advice given out on pets is like alternative medicine.

:D

His kitten will be fine.
 
Gzero said:
Super dismissive comment: Generally, I've found that the majority of the advice given out on pets is like alternative medicine.

:D

His kitten will be fine.
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The vast majority of pet owners do aboslutely no research about their pets at all before buying, and probably very little during the lifetime of their pets either.

But people like the GCCF are the real experts here. So you're kind of doing exactly what you accused me of. You implied that I shouldn't question the experts (in your mind the expert being the breeder he bought his cat from).

So then I tell you I'm just repeating what reputable experts like the GCCF have said (and many, many others, like Cats Protection, Veterinarian Associations, et al). And now you're dismissing that expert advice because you don't like it/ don't agree with it.

Anyway, that's enough from me on the subject I think :p

Rich1988 said:
8 weeks is the standard age for "normal cats" to be sold, 13 weeks tends to be the standard for pedigree
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Not surprising, because moggies tend to be sold by non-breeders who forgot to have their female cat spayed, or believed it was good for them to have one litter before being spayed (a commonly held belief).

Most pedigree breeders on the other hand would want to comply with either the GCCF, TICA, CFA guidelines. And are much more likely - tho not guaranteed - to be very well informed about cat welfare.
 
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FoxEye said:
Most pedigree breeders on the other hand would want to comply with either the GCCF, TICA, CFA guidelines. And are much more likely - tho not guaranteed - to be very well informed about cat welfare.
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Or they just want to get them out the door asap so they can get the queens back into breeding state as quickly as possible.
 
I hope someone can help (or say if I should start a new topic), but we moved into this house a couple months ago and our cats have started to go outside again. The old house had a cat flap that they were usually ok using, so we're keen to have one fitted here. But, there are no suitable doors to the back of the house, only a sliding upvc door. I know you can get a new window panel made with a hole for a cat flap, but a full door is likely to cost a fair bit. So, I was wondering whether anyone has fitted a cat flap in the window off the ground at waist height, and whether the cats are ok going in/out from the windowsills? The window to the right is far smaller and thus cheaper (and doesn't potentially screw with the sliding use of the patio door), but I can't remember seeing anyone with a cat flap not within a foot from the ground. Here's a pic showing the 2 options I think I've got:

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I did wonder about going through the external wall, but as 1 of the cats isn't massively confident with the cat flap I'm concerned about the length of the tunnel it would have to scramble through (not to mention any possibilities of damp coming through the hole in the wall). Any thoughts?
 
Mine go through a tunnel that's about a foot long. They've had no problems working it out. The window though would definitely be cheaper, can you build something outside it that they can jump onto to get in from the outside, cos they have the window sill on the inside

Mine go out of the flat via the bathroom window, they jump in/over the bath, into the window ledge and then I have big storage box they jump down onto, directly below the window, then across the conservatory and out the tunnel.

To get in, they just do the reverse. They've got it sorted really well now, even when they come belting in, they do it just fine. I lock them in at night by shutting the bathroom window once they've both come in through it.
 
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knip said:
Mine go through a tunnel that's about a foot long. They've had no problems working it out. The window though would definitely be cheaper, can you build something outside it that they can jump onto to get in from the outside, cos they have the window sill on the inside

Mine go out of the flat via the bathroom window, they jump in/over the bath, into the window ledge and then I have big storage box they jump down onto, directly below the window, then across the conservatory and out the tunnel.

To get in, they just do the reverse. They've got it sorted really well now, even when they come belting in, they do it just fine. I lock them in at night by shutting the bathroom window once they've both come in through it.
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I was thinking of balancing our outside table to be a similar height to the bottom of the flap, to allow then to get used to it, with the hope it can be removed once they're used to it. But, thinking about it, there might be a problem as our microchip cat flap has a hood that extends out quite far, so there might not be any space on the outside windowsill for them to balance on while climbing in. I guess we could make a little wooden walkway outside the window... Probably still easier, cheaper and less problematic for any future buyer.

sounds like you have an ingenious setup and you have them well trained (or they do you) and it works.
 
The tunnel in the wall is all properly sealed and water tight. I got someone proper in to do it, it comes in little sections and if you need it a bit longer you just add another section in. It's all fully waterproofed though. Sounds like that would be your easier option. I can take a picture of it tomorrow if that would help show you what it's like?
 
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