Silverstone FT02 and the horrors of GTX 1080 Ti

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Hey guys, I am really hopeless right now, maybe you can help me out in any form, even if its only a tiny bit of advice. Sorry for the slighty large wall of text!

Preface:
So I am rocking a ft02 for about 2 years now and so far its an amazing case.
I got a i7 4790k OC'ed to just 4,2Ghz (more not needed for gaming imho)
I have a Noctua D15 CPU cooler, installed a Noctua 120mm airflow fan as exhaust and I have everything + the 3 AP 180mm intake fans hooked up to the mainboard via WPM and custom fancurves via software. Everything is tied to the CPU temperature.

Everything runs really cool and even under load (40%-60% gaming) the CPU stays below 60°C while the fan is dead silent around 50% speed. The 3 AP180s also stay silent while running around 50% fanspeed.

GPU come into play:
I have 2x MSI 980 Gaming 4G in SLI installed. I chose them mainly because of the horizontal heatpipe and vertical heatsink fin placement.
On 100% load, the main card runs up to 79°C while the fan sits around 80% fanspeed.
The fan is barely noticeable, temps under 80°C is what I aimed for, so everything is good and I am happy.

Reviews state that this card runs at 67°C under load and I think the difference comes a bit from the rotated motherboard but moreso because the 3 AP180mm intake fans are only running at 40%-50% fanspeed because they are tied to CPU temp!
I have found no way of tying the fans to the GPU temperature as I am using the Asus AI Suite 3 for the fan controls which came with the motherboard which doesn't read the GPU temps. This is (at the moment) not much of my concern as I am happy with the way it is.

Now on topic, the 1080 Ti:
I think about upgrading my GPUs. Mainly because 4G of VRAM isn't enough these day and also because I want to be able to play Star Citizen with everything maxed out in VR (or 3D atleast). I have a ROG PG278Q 1440p monitor and I game a lot in 3D Vision which lets SLI scale even better.

The thing is, SLI or not, ALL the custom 1080 Ti cards so far have vertical heatpipes and horizontal heatsink fins.
The ONLY exception so far that I could spot is the MSI 1080 Ti Armor which apparently is bad at cooling (>80°C) in normal computer cases (Some say that it is a bug with the fan not getting to 100% speed, I can only hope). I found no official reviews or tests but there are 2 reddit posts for reference:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/631o8g/msi_1080_ti_armor_impressions/
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/62bcen/my_1080_ti_armor_oc_results/

And the Founders Edition with blower style is even worse at cooling, thermal throttles and of course is loud!
I suspect the custom blower models to not be substantially better. Reviews have yet to show up.

The problem:
Apparently there is NO good 1080 Ti card to choose for a 90° rotated motherboard at the moment!
I need a bit of advice on what to do, as I'm having trouble deciding. MAYBE some of you even have experience with rotated builds and GPU cooling? Also, I only have 2 Slots in space between the cards for SLI. The good 1080 Tis are 2,5 slots high, so only 0,5 slots of breathing space instead of 1,0 right now with 980s.


Possible Solutions (ranked from highest to lowest risk (subjectively)):
  1. Get 2x MSI 1080 Ti Armor and hope for a 'fanspeed' fix.
  2. Get 2x 1080 Ti which have good reviews (MSI Gaming or Asus Strix)
  3. Get 2x 1080 Ti blower style or hybrid AIO (where to fix the radiator in FT02??)
  4. Forget SLI and get only one 1080 Ti
  5. Forget the 1080 Ti and wait for the next generation
So... thanks for staying with me. Any advice so far? I know its complicated and I may be overthinking, but I just try to not order a ton of GPU and then sending them back until I found a perfect match that may not be possible at all.
 
get a new case ;) solves everything
As much as I hate to admit it... that might be the best solution.
I never thought about it because I just love this case... it would break my modest human pump to get rid of it after just 2 years but it would indeed solve all of my problems
 
dont get rid of it.. make 2nd pc just for web browsing, and chuck some cheap components in it, I have a fractal R3 i couldnt part with, use as a community grid & seti pc now
 
watercool your new GPUs?

Valid option but I don't have space for that I think. Less with SLI.
The FT02 only has 1 exhaust fan and its already close to my NH-D15 CPU cooler. I don't think a radiator would fit in there.
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I think I will try the Asus 1080 Ti Strix as it has excellent cooling in reviews. If this doesn't work I will have to look for a new case
 
Valid option but I don't have space for that I think. Less with SLI.
The FT02 only has 1 exhaust fan and its already close to my NH-D15 CPU cooler. I don't think a radiator would fit in there.
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You could use a 180mm rad, it has a slightly larger area than a 120x2 and could be mounted where the HDD cage is currently.
 
The FT02 really wasn't designed with watercooling in mind which is a shame.

I loved mine but had to ditch it a few years back when I went back to water.
 
this one looks cool and on offer

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £150.59
(includes shipping: £12.60)



great case but the front panel is a nightmare to remove imo. all the cables for front i/o are attached to it so when you pull it out you have to be a bit more gentle as they dont have a lot of cable so cant really move all that much. unless the case has changed since i got mine.
 
Let us know how you get on with the Strix - I have an FT02 as well, so I'd be interested in your findings.

Got my STRIX 1080 Ti OC today and installed it just now.

I am positively suprised.
On a demanding game with 100% load it went just up to 66°C and the fan was sitting at 38%.
I think that is very well like advertised. I have yet to install 3D Mark but I don't think it will even get close to breaking 70°C.

my old gtx 980 ran with the advertised temps and specs also, 69°C with 38% fanspeed but with the *correct* heatpipe and fin orientations!

It seems that todays cards (atleast MSI+ASUS) don't give a damn about a 90° rotated FT02!! Hooray for science!
 
Got my STRIX 1080 Ti OC today and installed it just now.

I am positively suprised.
On a demanding game with 100% load it went just up to 66°C and the fan was sitting at 38%.
I think that is very well like advertised. I have yet to install 3D Mark but I don't think it will even get close to breaking 70°C.

my old gtx 980 ran with the advertised temps and specs also, 69°C with 38% fanspeed but with the *correct* heatpipe and fin orientations!

It seems that todays cards (atleast MSI+ASUS) don't give a damn about a 90° rotated FT02!! Hooray for science!

Nice one! I read some comments saying the wicking material in the heatpipes was better these days. Good to see it's true!
 
I've used various types of heat pipe orientated cards in my FT-02 and as you have found out it makes no difference.
 
The cooler paste and fan quality on the gpu will matter more than the case, there isn't a better air cooling case on the market.
 
I'd of thought the founders edition blower fan style would be best in the ft02, In fact i got a founders edition ti, the other day and I think im going to dust off my ft02 and see what its like, the founders edition isnt very loud at all to be honest, I have tried it at 100% fan and even thats not that bad, nothing like a gtx 480 at least lol

once I have it installed this weekend, ill post back what its like in there

Edit, got my pc installed back in the ft02, temps of the gtx1080ti are not much better to be honest, but then again its fan only seems to be running at 20%

its nice and quiet when gaming, and also everything looks great, tidied up my wiring etc, when swapping over, really happy with how everything looks, (wish there was bit more space round back of motherboard)

happy with the change, but might end up getting one of those aio water coolers for the gpu later on
 
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