Silverstone SST TJ07 owners...

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I'll looking to get one of these to replace my Lian Li PC-61 for my next upgrade - my Lian Li, great as it is, is getting rather cramped inside.

To the point : can a TJ07 owner possibly tell me how much space there is between the hard disk rear (connector side) and the side of the case?
I'm seriously playing with the idea of using some SCSI disks with SCA connectors for my next rig, and these would need SCA-to-68pin adaptors which increase how far the connectors stick out by about 1cm.

If they can handle a standard SATA connector without too much of a kink I guess that'd be fine.

Other than that, any notable cons with these cases? (except for the price :p )

Cheers, Mat.
 
I've just measured mine and there is 27mm between the end of the hard drive and the side of the case. A standard SATA fits ok but it does have to bend a bit, I've got 90 degree ones which fit perfectly though.

The case itself is really rather good. I've got a water cooling rig in mine and there is shed loads of space. I've got the pump and rad mounted in the bottom section which keeps the main area incredibly tidy.

Build quality is really good but it's a bit of pain getting the side panels off, they seem to get stuck. I've added a side window to mine which seems to have solved that though. As you say it is pricey but worth it IMO.

Hope that's useful
 
Why would you want to use SCA disks with a SCA to 68pin converter?
You do know that a SCA disk is exactly the same as a 68pin model, apart from the connector, right?

If you already have SCA drives, that would be a valid answer then.

Also, speed wise I don't think it's very interesting to use SCSI drives in a desktop machine. In general you're better off with normal SATA drives.
Achieving good desktop speed with SCSI drives mostly requires a full RAID5 setup.
 
redeye: thanks for your time to measure it :) that should be plenty of room for the adaptors and cables I was looking to use. The quality does appear to be very good, I particulary like the dual fans on the HD bays and keeping all that and the PSU seperate from the motherboard 'area'.

prism: Indeed... I have a contact that can supply 15kRPM SCA drives at a knockdown price, but not the 68-pin ones (they're a server reseller). Also I may wish to use the drives later in my own server, with SCA drives I can do that, but if I had 68-pin drives, theres no adaptor for them to fit in a SCA hotswap backplane. I'm looking to go RAID-0 on a PCI-X raid controller, I'm tired of spending a quarter of my day everyday looking at progress bars :)
 
The backplane has a cable connected to it. So why not use the converter on that? I think it should work in most cases, but ofcourse it also depends on the case it self.
Most of them are quite tight, so a converter might not fit.

For a desktop, really stick to normal drives like SATA or IDE because SCSI ain't worth the high price, even if you get a big discount.
 
prism... I have not seen an adaptor that allows one to connect a 68-pin drive + power to a SCA backplane - that'd be SCA male to 68-pin female + power, the opposite of what I've seen before. Who makes these?

As for the cost effectiveness of SCSI for normal desktop duties ... I stand with you on this one, but the way our PowerEdge 2950 at work stomps through disk-intensive stuff makes me rather giddy :p
 
I didn't mean a converter on the drive, but a converter on the backplane itself.
But all backplanes I know (SUN/SGI/Compaq/HP/etc) which use SCA drives plugged into a backplane, use a 68pin cable to connect the backplane to a controller. So why would you even search for such a converter.
Or do you have a very, very funky backplane?

Those servers you mention, not so much the model but more the kind of work they do, are optimized for high I/O traffic. A desktop is not high I/O even when you drive seem to be transferring data for a long time when copying a 1GB file from one to another disk.

High I/O traffic is when you have several hundred or even thousand requests per second for all over the disks.
Copying a 1GB file is 1 I/O request. Requests for thousand files by various users is 1000 I/O requests.
A SCSI drive is optimized for high I/O traffic, a SATA/IDE disk generally isn't.
 
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