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Hi I'm hopefully moving into a new build house next week. Most of the rooms and two of bedroom I think it is have one aireal socket and some form of distribution thing in the loft.

Will sky fit the dish when connect to the loft distributor or will they just go outside the house? I can cope with the lounge cable outside as long as it's tidy. But the location in the bedroom is on the left inside wall. Again would sky be able to connect to the loft or run the cables into the loft and down the cavity to where the box will be. Or will they just go through external wall which will be at the front which I really don' want as will look messy and would still have to be fed across the room and round a door. Thanks phil
 
I think your right about the loft. But in speaking to a few private comoankes the loft box can't be used either. Im thinking best option is sky box in lounge installed in normal way with a face plate inside so not loose cable and the bedroom box in the dining room. And get an aerial in the loft connect to the distribution thing and just use freeview in the bedroom with a recorder until sky get rid if the dish.
 
Have you thought about fishing the cable through the existing ports?
Open the faceplate, tape the two wires together and then pull the cable on the loft
If you go this way think also of pulling ethernet cables so you have wired ethernet


I did but on speaking to local independent sky installer he reckons not enough room to get the cables up into the loft. Not saying he's right but he knows more than me.
 
Thanks yes sky q would be best in many ways but got quite a bit of stuff in the box that we can't re download or record. Plus am I right in the thinking the addition boxes aren' sseperate recorders with their own storage?
 
Sky's own installers won't do anything but a basic install the facilitate the package you've bought. At the moment the only option available from Sky is Sky Q. In general then that means a dish on the wall at no more than stepladder height, a twin cable from the dish and entering the house via the shortest route, and connected to a Q box. Any additional distribution is via Sky Multiview (the new name for Sky Multiroom), but the difference is that additional boxes work without direct satellite cable feeds. They use a network connection: wireless/wired Ethernet/powerline (but powerline is unofficially supported).

The sort of Sky system you're talking about is the previous generation Sky+HD system.

Sky's own installers no longer fit this. Independent contractors installing Sky as well as Freesat/Freeview may well do. Just check that Sky will (a) supply a viewing card and (b) activate it once the install is complete. They're really pushing hard to get everyone on Q. This only applies to new subscribers or people with a lapsed subscription. There are still some grey areas.

As long as you're confident that your system can be activated at the new address then here's what you can do to share the Sky system around the house.

I understand the desire to keep things looking neat, but I wouldn't recommend running the dish cables to the loft for a number of reasons. The main ones are:

1) House builders use crappy aerial cable. By crappy I mean the lowest grade, most cheaply made, poorest-shielded garbage it's possible to buy. It's barely acceptable to TV signals. Satellite signals need something altogether better because it runs at a much higher frequency where cable losses are far more acute

2) Trying to pull decent grade twin cable through the run occupied by the existing (crappy) single coax is an exercise in futility. That cable was installed during the build, and then it had insulation material added in the cavity. You've no idea whether the cable is pinned or inched at any point. You'll maybe get away pulling a short
run from the loft to a 1st floor bedroom without snags or damaging the cable, but to a ground floor room.... you've more chance of winning a tenner on the lottery

3) If/when your hand is forced by Sky to upgrade or switch to Q then all this work will have been for nothing. The Sky installers won't fit Q systems where the sat cable runs via a loft box


If you want to share the Sky box signal to other TVs in the house then your main options with a single box system are Sky's RF2 Out feature or distributing the HD signal via direct HDMI, or HDMI over Cat baluns/HDBaseT baluns, or HD via the house existing aerial distribution system.

Sky RF2 Out is simple, cheap and compatible with any TV that still has an analogue tuner. It also provides a way via the magic eye system to control the box. Aside from the analogue tuner requirement, the other prerequisites are
- an aerial coax cable direct to the box for Freeview in
- another coax cable (the return cable) from the box to the loft to carry the Sky RF2 signal mixed with Freeview
- a loft distribution box that's compatible with the Sky Eye power signal (referred to as IR Pass) if you want to run the magic eye system
- either a Sky+HD box with RF2 Out, or an I/O Port Adapter

Baluns/HDBaseT/HDMI direct all require additional cable being run.

The HD over Coax system is a viable alternative with minimal impact during installation and makes best use of the existing aerial distribution network. It is compatible with Sky Eyes and can even accommodate Sky RF2 + HD. The secondary TVs need to have an MPEG4 tuner if you want to watch in HD; this is the tuner type required to receive Freeview HD, but that's not a requirement if using a combined HD + RF2 Out over coax solution.
Many thanks for the taking the time for a detailed response it' nmuch appreciated. Im taking my existing boxes with us which they have said they will do. Does the dish only need to be a stepladder height then now as always been roof height previous times had it fitted.

Sounds like the loft box idea nor cable through wall won't work so I think I'm best just keeping it simple and go for box on lounge with faceplate to keep neat and the second box which is now in the bedroom in the dining room and a aerial in loft for freeview in the bedroom
 
For a standard Sky install the company wants to minimise risk wherever possible. That means avoiding working at height unless absolutely unavoidable.

If it is the case that your new place needs the dish up high otherwise it's no service then Sky has install teams specially rigged up to deal with that.
Sorry so if the dish needs to be near the roof line the engineer wont fit it and would need a specialist team?
 
Thanks good read. Am I understanding correct that the dish doesn' rreally need to be that high. Too be fair the dish lower would suit me better as would look better visually
 
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