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Skylake, Haswell-E or Broadwell-E?

titaniumx3

titaniumx3

titaniumx3

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Sorry if this has been discussed to death already, but need some expert advice. :D

Looking to upgrade soon and was wondering what would be best. Current system is:

i7 2700K @ 4.6ghz
Asus Z68 Mobo
16GB RAM
980Ti
SATA SSDs and HDDs
Corsair TX650 PSU
Antec 300 Case

Everything is working fine, but its just getting a bit boring now, nothing to tinker with and I'm pretty sure something will give out soon. Case and PSU are 7 years old, CPU and Mobo are 4 years old. I think some of the case fans are starting to die as they are making a weird buzzing sound. Anyway, point is I want to upgrade soon and would like to build a completely new system, with only graphics card and SSD/HDD carried over.

I'm currently looking at the 6700K and 5820K, but was wondering what is better value? I know 5820K is cheaper, but offset by higher motherboard cost. Also I can't see any benchmarks that compare them clock for clock. Also what sort of overclock should I expect from both processors? Finally, with Broadwell-E close to release, should I wait for that? Ideally, I would like Skylake-E but that is too far away. Looking for gaming performance mostly, but like having a balanced system with good versatility and future proofing.

I intend to stick to a premium air cooler. Is this a bad idea for these CPUs? Not sold on these AIO water coolers and not prepared to go for a proper WC setup.

Finally, I also fully intend on getting a M2 formfactor PCI-E NVme SSD. Which platform would be better for this?

Would really appreciate some advice!
 
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Broadwell-E

No need to upgrade unless you want the extra cores though. But if building a new system may as well get the latest and greatest and it's not far off last I checked (Q1?).
 
Skylake would only make sense if they were a fair bit cheaper than current market price. I'm guessing they'll be cheaper in January but on in an all things being equal you probably can't go wrong with either.

You'll get a lot more tinkering fun with the 5820k for sure, but I've heard the 6700k are good fun and really cool running giving them great potential for high-clock rates. I'm building a Skylake but I have a horrible feeling I will be building X99 shortly thereafter searching for those extra cores but only one way to find out really.

Anyway, we're nearly hitting next gen with Zen CPU's and Pascal GPU's so it may be worthwhile just to sit back and wait another 6 months....
 
6700K is expensive but if you aren't worried about paying for the best then it tops the 4core/8thread market. Where I don't buy the arguments for Skylake is the 6600 where for the price you could have a last gen proper i7 which will just be better for overall use and smoother in some games (going for even a couple of generation back i5 and clocking the nuts off it will come close as makes no difference in games at a considerably lower price compared to 6600).

Not much beats the 5820K for smart money when it comes to a broad range of uses, for most realworld gaming you aren't really going to see much of a difference to anything else out at the moment and while it could change when DX12 hits proper if you plan on sticking with nVidia preliminarily their drivers for DX12 seem to hit max performance on real 6 core CPUs (this does not apply to AMD GPUs at all as things stand where both 4 and 6 real cores shows the same performance).
 
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X99 and 5820k is where the best value is now. Skylake i7 6700k price is a farce. A chip thats slightly faster than the 4790k it replaced, doesnt oc that well either. Majorly overpriced. From a gaming point using an overclocked 5820k, at 4.4/5ghz which most will do it will match a 6700k at around the same speed.
 
I'm on a similar setup (2700k @4.8Ghz) and for the cost I can't see the value in upgrading currently unless you can use the extra cores of the 5820k. None of the 4c/8t CPUs are worth the hassle and cost of upgrading to.

The M2 SSDs don't really thrill me either, I'm not sure the performance increase is worth the cost currently. They'll rapidly become mainstream and costs will fall.
 
easyrider said:
You won't see any increase in games for the outlay...

Get a new monitor or something instead....
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Thats what i done, but it only took me a few years and quite a lot of cash to catch on. Ive owned the following cpu's lately.

i7 920
i7 930
i5 3570k
i7 3770k
17 4770k
x2 i7 4790k
i7 5820k

Gming wise, the difference from the latest to the first in that list is barely noticeable. Thats not counting the myriad of c2d/q chips i had. I do like using different cpu's, for me theyre more interesting than graphics cards. More fun to overclock.
 
I reckon, I'll wait for broadwell-e in that case then. I think it's mostly down to wanting a new motherboard and less about the CPU. I will also need to upgrade to Win 10 soon and thought a new system would coincide nicely with this.
 
titaniumx3 said:
I reckon, I'll wait for broadwell-e in that case then. I think it's mostly down to wanting a new motherboard and less about the CPU. I will also need to upgrade to Win 10 soon and thought a new system would coincide nicely with this.
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If your bored...buy a new case....CPUs have not moved on much especially since your gen you're currently using
 
If you are defo going to use nvme and more than one gpu on x99 you need to be wary of some boards disabling pcie slot on 28 lane cpu such as 5820k. But ignore me if solo gpu.
I'd say x99 but I'm biased, I been where you are and did a lot of reading up on pros n cons. It suited my needs but that's what you need to ask yourself.
 
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