Skylake or Devils Canyon?

[neviditelny]

Hello there

I am in the hunt for a new computer now when my finances finally allows it. I'm looking around at different builds and am wondering which would be the better buy looking for a long term solution? The new Skylake (I'm thinking of the 6700K there) or the Devils Canyon (4790K).

They are close to each other in price and with the full build they will still be very close to each other in the full price for the full rig (less than £50 difference).

I'm mostly doing some plain gaming and smaller multi-tasking but I'm looking to get something I won't need to upgrade too much in the next few years (except from possibly the graphic card).

The advantages with the Skylake is that the mobo would be able to handle a lot more memory than the Devil's Canyon. However, the Devil's Canyon, even if a bit older than the Skylake is a CPU that should work fairly well and which there is less "kids diseases" on (hopefully).

So any suggestions and opinions would be gratefully received.

And about the full rig, it would cost me about £1350-1400 depending if I decide to upgrade my GPU and get a new storage HDD.

 

[faceman123]

Hello there

I am in the hunt for a new computer now when my finances finally allows it. I'm looking around at different builds and am wondering which would be the better buy looking for a long term solution? The new Skylake (I'm thinking of the 6700K there) or the Devils Canyon (4790K).

They are close to each other in price and with the full build they will still be very close to each other in the full price for the full rig (less than £50 difference).

I'm mostly doing some plain gaming and smaller multi-tasking but I'm looking to get something I won't need to upgrade too much in the next few years (except from possibly the graphic card).

The advantages with the Skylake is that the mobo would be able to handle a lot more memory than the Devil's Canyon. However, the Devil's Canyon, even if a bit older than the Skylake is a CPU that should work fairly well and which there is less "kids diseases" on (hopefully).

So any suggestions and opinions would be gratefully received.

And about the full rig, it would cost me about £1350-1400 depending if I decide to upgrade my GPU and get a new storage HDD.

Go Sklake

 

[Aretak]

Definetly go for Skylake. Whilst the 6700K isn't really worth upgrading to from a 4790K, it's certainly better and there's really no reason to consider Devil's Canyon for a new build now that prices have returned to more sane levels for Skylake. The 6700K has some small advantages in gaming terms (get some DDR4 3000MHz+ to make the most of them), and is a new socket that will provide a potential upgrade path in future. Both Kaby Lake and next year's Cannonlake will use the same socket, although it's debatable whether Cannonlake will be allowed to work on Z170 boards.

 

[neviditelny]

Well, both a Devil's Canyon and a Skylake will be an upgrade from my current AMD Phenom II Quad Core 3,5Ghz

The memory I've looked at for the Skylake is some Corsair 2x16GB 2400Mhz, but I will look into the 3000Mhz as well.

 

[Vish Petrol]

Go x99 with the 5820k or 6800k, cost difference isn't that high considering the overall price of the system, and should last longer

 

[Cern]

If choice is between Skylake and Devil's Canyon, then definitely choose Skylake, it's a newer architecture with a number of advantages, not least of them DDR4, but also USB 3.1 and more PCI lanes. The 6700k will be good for a long time to come.

However, as others have suggested, also have a look at X99 + 5820k or 6800k as an alternative (would mean another £100-£200 on the build budget though).

 

[Brazo]

Skylakes a no brainier if starting from scratch. There simply isn't any noticeable performance difference between the two however and fast ram is available on the dc platform but always choose the newer version.

Depending on what you do however the x99 platform is a good shout as that would last you longer than say a simple z170 Skylake system.

 

[jbh110tdi]

If I was building a new system from scratch I would go skylake.
I went with the devils canyon last year but the skylake prices were still high at the time but as said now that the prices have came to sensible levels its more sensible to build a skylake system.

 

[neviditelny]

I'm mainly doing some basic gaming and listen to music & watch movies on the computer plus using it for my studies. But I tend to try build my pc's to last for quite a while (this one i've had for over 5,5 years now and its time to upgrade). Not sure if the x99 would be worth the money for me at the moment though but it is looking quite interesting.

 

[jbh110tdi]

Not sure if the x99 would be worth the money for me at the moment though but it is looking quite interesting.

Im the same as you I like the look of the X99 set ups and like the idea but when I compare prices then think of the cooling required to get a good overclock it makes me wonder if its worth it for what I use my system for.

for basic gaming I dont think it would make much difference. if you were to be video, music editing or other multi core tasks then I believe an X99 system would wipe the floor with a skylake i7 6700k but for basic gaming and listening to music & watching movies I dont see the point in an X99 build.

 

[pandem0nium]

32gb ram is far more than you'd need for just gaming. A faster 16gb kit will be better idea.

Skylake is a bit of a no brainer, but you could reuse the ram from your existing build with Haswell.

 

[neviditelny]

Someone somewhere mentioned something about that there was some issues with the Skylake and Win10? Is that something you guys know or have heard something about? Or any other "child diseases" to be aware of?

 

[Andy7]

Go x99 with the 5820k or 6800k, cost difference isn't that high considering the overall price of the system, and should last longer

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[Supernova]

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[~>Dg<~]

if you just basic gaming i5 will be fine skylake.

anything else and want the extra mileage go x99. its nothing new the enthusiast top end always lasts a little longer. the extra cores are starting to show a edge in games just coming out now.

also everything else is a lot quicker especially when overclocked.

 

[Dave2150]

Definetly go for Skylake. Whilst the 6700K isn't really worth upgrading to from a 4790K, it's certainly better and there's really no reason to consider Devil's Canyon for a new build now that prices have returned to more sane levels for Skylake. The 6700K has some small advantages in gaming terms (get some DDR4 3000MHz+ to make the most of them), and is a new socket that will provide a potential upgrade path in future. Both Kaby Lake and next year's Cannonlake will use the same socket, although it's debatable whether Cannonlake will be allowed to work on Z170 boards.

+1

Highest is currently Intel's highest IPC CPU - it also clocks very well on average.

 

[shamus21]

If your buying new go for skylake but the Devil Canyons are a very good Cpu and if you can pick one up S/H on the cheap it is the way to go.

 

[beany_bot]

if you just basic gaming i5 will be fine skylake.

anything else and want the extra mileage go x99. its nothing new the enthusiast top end always lasts a little longer. the extra cores are starting to show a edge in games just coming out now.

also everything else is a lot quicker especially when overclocked.

Exactly what games are using more than 4 cores?

 

[nashathedog]

For gaming go Skylake and get ram that's at least 3000mhz. I've got the Devils canyon i7 and it's a great chip but the 6700k does show decent performance increases in a lot of games, Also the platform allows faster read & writes through m.2 and pcie.

 

[~>Dg<~]

Exactly what games are using more than 4 cores?

there is a few but its not about it uses 4 cores.

imagine the other stuff running overall a smoother experience and games are starting to advance now. also VR coming in slowly.

if you just want to game i5 is fine but if you want the longer lasting system with more horse power x99 is the platform.