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Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X will still require delidding?

voidshatter

voidshatter

voidshatter

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Rumors say that these are still not soldered...

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Intel have probably realised that the only people who will be buying their HEDT line don't care much about cost (be it performance-at-any-cost enthusiasts or businesses looking for very high-end workstations). They probably think it'll be more profitable to cut corners like this and just let AMD have the "value oriented" customers, whilst relying on their brand name to shift units. Using TIM also keeps their relationship with bespoke retailers healthy because it feeds the "delidding" gravy train. Why use an extra 50c for solder when we can increase our margins and let the retailers to do it and charge an extra $50?
 
But why? I can understand for the lower platform but this being HEDT as well as the higher TDP surely soldering will ensure the chips stay cooler?
 
But the stock boost speed (boost 3.0) 4.5ghz is only for 2 cores?

Is there any info yet how far all cores would go?
 
With TIM, not far enough. And even delided given the size of the core and power consumption, it will be worse than the Broadwel-E. Especially the 10core or higher models.
 
Jeez, what is Intel thinking? Do they pay NO attention? They obviously aren't oblivious to the fact that the 7700K performs like a BEAST when de-lidded, but they seemingly don't care. They just expect people to buy their product regardless. I really want to see them fail here, they need a wake-up call.
 
Legend said:
Jeez, what is Intel thinking? Do they pay NO attention? They obviously aren't oblivious to the fact that the 7700K performs like a BEAST when de-lidded, but they seemingly don't care. They just expect people to buy their product regardless. I really want to see them fail here, they need a wake-up call.
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You say it as if the majority of consumers overclock and are bothered by temperature. They aren't. Dissapointing if true however.
 
haszek said:
But the stock boost speed (boost 3.0) 4.5ghz is only for 2 cores?

Is there any info yet how far all cores would go?
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Not that I can find, but it's gonna be something like 200w if you can manage to get all the cores at 4.00GHz. I suppose this is where ironically AMD will probably end up having better overclocking due to the modular nature of the CPU package.
 
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