I don't have an answer and it's not my job to come up with answers to complex problems like this, it's a grey area though. Technically they are being treated as slaves, which isn't acceptable, but yes they should work while in prison.
Slave labour in prison
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I don't have an answer and it's not my job to come up with answers to complex problems like this, it's a grey area though. Technically they are being treated as slaves, which isn't acceptable, but yes they should work while in prison.
The issue i see with working prisoners at slave wages is that it takes jobs away from me and you and encourages jailing people for small crimes to boost the slave labour force, it then becomes big private enterprise much like in the US.
Perhaps a slightly reduced wage for those who are not on life sentences to allow them to continue to provide for their family in some capacity or save up for the end of their sentence.
Perhaps a slightly reduced wage for those who are not on life sentences to allow them to continue to provide for their family in some capacity or save up for the end of their sentence.
You'll pay of course?
There are young people on the streets and old people that have never done anything wrong in their whole lives that will die this winter and people are worried about criminals in prison not getting NMW
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Just change the way that pay is shown, give them a wage equivalent to that job in the real world and show a list of all the deductions (rent, food, water etc) so its technically them paying for their stay and in the end not much different to this 'slave labour' £1-2 a week that people go on about
You'll pay of course?
There are young people on the streets and old people that have never done anything wrong in their whole lives that will die this winter and people are worried about criminals in prison not getting NMW
They would be paid by the company that they're working for.
My point is, make it NMW, or not at all. But if you allow them to work for 0 wage or 50p an hour you encourage companies to make use of prison labour rather than paid labour and remove legitimate jobs from everyone.
This also encourages keeping prisons at capacity to keep a good slave labour force.
In a similar way you get those being forced into work to get dole money. Sure they're getting dole money but essentially a company is getting free labour which eliminates paying jobs for everyone. How about just give that person the job that pays NMW and take them off the dole? Its just a shady way for a company to cut labour costs while the government pays for the persons minimal living expenses.
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You can debate all day on whether prisoners should be in prison and whether or not it rehabilitates them - however I don't think that offering a paedophile, a murderer or a drug dealer £5 an hour for sweeping up and cooking dinner is going to turn them whiter than white.
Prisoners belong in prison in my opinion, they are of great cost to society just for housing, feeding, cleaning and guarding them. Their criminal acts put them their and they owe a debt to society. Them being there is costing society a great amount so why should we then pay them and treat them well? Uk prisoners have an easy life in comparison to other countries. We all know some prisons mistreat prisoners, but the fact that prison service can be sued for not providing a working toilet shows just how much the prisoners know they can get away with.
Here's an idea, if you want paid for the work you do, get out of prison, get a job, pay your taxes, contribute to society again and that's rehabilitation, and your being paid for it.
Prisoners belong in prison in my opinion, they are of great cost to society just for housing, feeding, cleaning and guarding them. Their criminal acts put them their and they owe a debt to society. Them being there is costing society a great amount so why should we then pay them and treat them well? Uk prisoners have an easy life in comparison to other countries. We all know some prisons mistreat prisoners, but the fact that prison service can be sued for not providing a working toilet shows just how much the prisoners know they can get away with.
Here's an idea, if you want paid for the work you do, get out of prison, get a job, pay your taxes, contribute to society again and that's rehabilitation, and your being paid for it.
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No they aren't.
Just because the prisoner is getting 50p an hour it doesn't mean the company are getting a cheap product.
Also most of the jobs are 'in house' so they are cooking, cleaning, gardening, painting, laundry etc.
Or making body armour, helmets and wiring looms for fighter jets, helecopters and patriot interceptor missiles?
Definitly not taking anyway skilled jobs there that would normally be paying in the $30 an hour plus range...
The BBC and other major news publishers only print what fits their agenda, or what makes them money.
They never print the truth.
And that's exacly why I do not read the news, or watch TV.
It's just chewing gum for the brain.