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SLi Blown PSU?

Yet -> http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=317

Can you find us a crap review score for an AX860i from someone we can trust?

I have used loads of Corsair PSUs

At the moment I have 6 x AX1200i and a single AX1500i.

Corsair have had a problem in the past with PSUs, I have blown up a couple.

One of my 1200i's died when I hooked it up to a GTX 960 lol.

It is ok to use Corsair but don't ask too much of the PSUs like going over their rating. In my PCs I use them in pairs as some of my setups do like a couple of thousand watts.:D
 
Yet -> http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=317

Can you find us a crap review score for an AX860i from someone we can trust?

He might have had a lemon who knows.

Mine is a Corsair but a AX1200

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=189

6 years old and never missed a beat.

In general you cant every say whether manufacturer A or B sells good or bad psus as in the range some can be good and some can be awful and sometimes different ones in the range are made by different OEMs

Or for years the manufacturer uses one OEM and then changes to another. Sometimes for the good and sometimes for the worse. Even with the AX1000 they used a different OEM to make compared with all the other PSU they were selling at the time.

You just to have read reviews of each model from different sources.

Im not saying Johnnyguru never gets it wrong but if he does a review which shows massive failings on a psu or it blows up, then I wont buy that psu even if other sites give it rave reviews.
 
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Just my opinion from my own experience, like i said good units but for me not when pushed and this was within its rated limits. Take my superflower 1200 plat for instance, this didn't crap out until around 1440W, this was with 2x 780 classifides.
Hmm someone you can trust?? Maybe 8Pack can coment if he reads this?

At the end of the day it all depends on the users needs like any component, if your gaming, light benchmarking etc then the AX will be more than upto the job but if your someone whom likes to push a little harder then i stand by my coment and i would not buy one.

To be fair to Johnnyguru and other reviewers, you really shouldnt be pushing your PSU close to its advertised limits or past them.
 
To be fair to Johnnyguru and other reviewers, you really shouldnt be pushing your PSU close to its advertised limits or past them.

only found out after i purchased a power meter, which then led me to buy another PSU, mobo etc and 1x vga on psu#1 and the other vga on psu#2, problem solved :D
 
I also use a Ax series ( Ax1200i ) PSU in my main rig and it is superb, Corsair don't use crap components in them like the cx series. My next PSU won't be Corsair though. I have just recently bought this to replace a Corsair HX850 that died.
 
I also use a Ax series ( Ax1200i ) PSU in my main rig and it is superb, Corsair don't use crap components in them like the cx series. My next PSU won't be Corsair though. I have just recently bought this to replace a Corsair HX850 that died.

Agreed. I think current Corsair arent that great anymore.
 
100% agree with this.

Seen to many running PSU's too close to their rating.

I thought I was perhaps pushing my 1200W psu with two heavily overclocked 290x and a 4.6Ghz 5820 with 6 hard drives and two optical drives, two d5 pumps and a shedload of fans and then I see people running similar on a 850W or 750W psu.
 
100% agree with this.

Seen to many running PSU's too close to their rating.

This^^^

The other thing I find laughable about it is people make so much fuss about how loud the fan is on their GPUs yet PSUs can be quite loud when running near their limit.
 
Everything is working now, impressive performance, able to maintain 150fps on Overwatch on Epic settings which is cool. The heat isn't so cool, and the 2nd card has some coil whine. But it could be worse.

In total, the PSU explosion took out:
Motherboard
SSD Boot Drive
Mouse
1 Memory stick

The Mouse and stick were plugged in at the time, I guess they went kaput. I guess this teaches the valuable lesson of getting a quality PSU!
 
I guess this teaches the valuable lesson of getting a quality PSU!

You'd hope so wouldn't you?

Unfortunately you'll always get someone cutting corners and trying to run their setup on cheap or underrated PSU. :(

Worst of all are the ones who say -

"I run mine on this and I've never had a problem".
 
Depends how you look at it, I would never put anything like that in my main rig simply because the components used are poor in comparison to the higher end psu's. The psu is the most important component so why use a poor psu?

Ok I will spend £100+ on a psu just incase the small sub 1% chance it will blow but oh that means the reason I needed the psu no longer exists as my gtx 1070 is now a 1060 :)

I dont buy cheap no name brands.

But I also dont buy top of the line as these so called top components are just luxury but not needed. I have never had a blown psu. My last psu that failed was nearly 10 years old.

I have a CX psu in my spare rig, that has had no issues, granted not used much, the psu in this machine is a mid range psu. 600w only, pc is on 24/7 and no issues.
 
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PSUs also run most efficiently when used near half their max output.

This is true, but the difference is splitting hairs. E.g. 80+ Bronze is most efficient at 50% load (85% efficient) but only 4% less at 20% or 100% loads (81% efficient).

I argue that these days since most PSUs will spend most of their time at very low loads (<50W) people should be getting the smallest PSUs they can. E.g. a 1 KW PSU at idle might only be running at 5-10% load.

Either that or get a Platinum PSU which has a 90%+ rating at 10% load. :cool:

Because I dont like over stressing my PSU plus prefer it having the fan runninging quietly, i always aim to get a psu with double the W i need. Eg If i work out I need 500W then I buy a 1000W psu.

Dont forget over time PSU's supply less and less power slowly as well.

Just because a 750W can supply 750W of power doesnt mean that you should do that 24/7.

The way I look at it is like a car. It might rev to 6000 rpm but you wouldnt drive it 24/7 at 6000rpm all day and expect it to last as long as another engine only doing 3000rpm.

I appreciate car analogies are traditional, but they're also usually wrong, like this one. ;)

Sustained high revs are bad for typical engines because (AFAIK) the oil circulation often isn't sufficient at the high end. To state the obvious, there's nothing really like that in a PSU.

A better analogy would be a bridge. A bridge might be rated for 30 tonnes, in which case you can happily drive a 30 tonne truck back and forth over it all day long without expecting it to collapse.

This is because the engineers already built in all the safety factors to the calculation, so you know 30 tonnes is safe day in day out.

If your way of thinking were applied to bridges you'd see a 30 tonne weight limit and only ever drive 15 tonnes over it to avoid stressing it. :confused:

Electronic components are made in the same way as a bridge, individual components and the whole unit have their own tolerances and limits, and (if designed properly) are kept well below them, even at the rating.

Now that's not to say running a PSU at 100% 24/7 isn't going to shorten its lifetime compared to using it sparingly (it will), but it shouldn't be much shorter than running it at 50% 24/7. But that's a different matter to a PSU going bang.
 
This is true, but the difference is splitting hairs. E.g. 80+ Bronze is most efficient at 50% load (85% efficient) but only 4% less at 20% or 100% loads (81% efficient).

I argue that these days since most PSUs will spend most of their time at very low loads (<50W) people should be getting the smallest PSUs they can. E.g. a 1 KW PSU at idle might only be running at 5-10% load.

Either that or get a Platinum PSU which has a 90%+ rating at 10% load. :cool:



I appreciate car analogies are traditional, but they're also usually wrong, like this one. ;)

Sustained high revs are bad for typical engines because (AFAIK) the oil circulation often isn't sufficient at the high end. To state the obvious, there's nothing really like that in a PSU.

A better analogy would be a bridge. A bridge might be rated for 30 tonnes, in which case you can happily drive a 30 tonne truck back and forth over it all day long without expecting it to collapse.

This is because the engineers already built in all the safety factors to the calculation, so you know 30 tonnes is safe day in day out.

If your way of thinking were applied to bridges you'd see a 30 tonne weight limit and only ever drive 15 tonnes over it to avoid stressing it. :confused:

Electronic components are made in the same way as a bridge, individual components and the whole unit have their own tolerances and limits, and (if designed properly) are kept well below them, even at the rating.

Now that's not to say running a PSU at 100% 24/7 isn't going to shorten its lifetime compared to using it sparingly (it will), but it shouldn't be much shorter than running it at 50% 24/7. But that's a different matter to a PSU going bang.

At less than 50% load the fans on the better ones don't need to spin up either which a lot of people will find a plus.

Never never never cut corners with the PSU, more really is better.
 
This is true, but the difference is splitting hairs. E.g. 80+ Bronze is most efficient at 50% load (85% efficient) but only 4% less at 20% or 100% loads (81% efficient).

I argue that these days since most PSUs will spend most of their time at very low loads (<50W) people should be getting the smallest PSUs they can. E.g. a 1 KW PSU at idle might only be running at 5-10% load.

Either that or get a Platinum PSU which has a 90%+ rating at 10% load. :cool:



I appreciate car analogies are traditional, but they're also usually wrong, like this one. ;)

Sustained high revs are bad for typical engines because (AFAIK) the oil circulation often isn't sufficient at the high end. To state the obvious, there's nothing really like that in a PSU.

A better analogy would be a bridge. A bridge might be rated for 30 tonnes, in which case you can happily drive a 30 tonne truck back and forth over it all day long without expecting it to collapse.

This is because the engineers already built in all the safety factors to the calculation, so you know 30 tonnes is safe day in day out.

If your way of thinking were applied to bridges you'd see a 30 tonne weight limit and only ever drive 15 tonnes over it to avoid stressing it. :confused:

Electronic components are made in the same way as a bridge, individual components and the whole unit have their own tolerances and limits, and (if designed properly) are kept well below them, even at the rating.

Now that's not to say running a PSU at 100% 24/7 isn't going to shorten its lifetime compared to using it sparingly (it will), but it shouldn't be much shorter than running it at 50% 24/7. But that's a different matter to a PSU going bang.

Nope your bridge apology is wrong. Most PSU will only do their rated wattage not more although the better ones will slightly. A bridge with a 30 tonne weight limit will probably be able to handle 50 or 60 tonnes and not collapse. Years ago in a truck weighing 56 tonnes we drove over a 7.5 tonne bridge and it didn't collapse.. It's designed to happily have 30 tonnes go over it day after day. So basically you have with your analogy just proven my point. Just cause the bridge can carry 50 or 60 tonnes it's rated to only carry 30 tonnes. PSU are pretty much rated at their max power eg a 1200w PSU will only supply 1200w max, not 2400w.

So using a PSU at its max wattage stresses the PSU more than running in the 50% to 75% range.

That's why the poorly made PSU sometimes blow up when stress tested at 100% wattage in Johnny gurus tests.

And if you buy one way bigger than you currently need, when you change your components you are not forced to dish out on a bigger PSU which adds money to the upgrade. I have gone through three motherboards and 4 graphics cards with my current PSU and that includes sli and xfire. It hasn't missed a beat. It was £110 well spent.
 
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Everything is working now, impressive performance, able to maintain 150fps on Overwatch on Epic settings which is cool. The heat isn't so cool, and the 2nd card has some coil whine. But it could be worse.

In total, the PSU explosion took out:
Motherboard
SSD Boot Drive
Mouse
1 Memory stick

The Mouse and stick were plugged in at the time, I guess they went kaput. I guess this teaches the valuable lesson of getting a quality PSU!

Same thing happened to me years ago, its an expensive lesson to learn luckily your GPUs survived as mine did but that was about all i reused from that pc :)

I ended up buying top end PSUs the next 3 times after that costing like £2-300 each so i overdid it a bit really. One of them is still working fine what must be 12 years later so not a bad investment really.
 
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