SMP client going to breach deadline - please help

to give you an idea here's my benchmarks

E4300 @ 3ghz
2gb of ram

Project : 2610
Core : Gromacs SMP
Frames : 100
Credit : 1523


-- CPU --

Min. Time / Frame : 22mn 04s - 993.86 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 22mn 36s - 970.41 ppd

FaHmon is still showing 17hours to complete!!! :eek: :eek:
 
Right, so the next work unit should be faster, is that right?

Also - how do I stop FAH without it shutting down improperly?

Edit: info asked for from FAHMON:

Project : 2610
Core : Gromacs SMP
Frames : 100
Credit : 1523


-- bob --

Min. Time / Frame : 29mn 58s - 731.85 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 50mn 45s - 432.14 ppd
 
Yeah, keep an eye on the frame times, the time left should come down, it's based on an average..

To close it, I think you click on the client and then use Ctrl C.

I'm not sure about your frame times though, mine are less than half that with Linux SMP and an E6700.
 
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WoZZeR said:
Yeah, keep an eye on the frame times, the time left should come down, it's based on an average..

To close it, I think you click on the client and then use Ctrl C.

I'm not sure about your frame times though, mine are less than half that with Linux SMP and an E6700.
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The average frame time or the min frame time?

EDIT:// THANKS EVERYONE! I'm not going to breach the deadline any longer so team 10 will get extra points. YHEY!
 
Both, different project but the frame times don't vary much.

Project : 2605
Core : Gromacs SMP
Frames : 100
Credit : 1760

-- SMP 1 --
Min. Time / Frame : 8mn 40s - 2924.31 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 11mn 16s - 2249.47 ppd

I think the 8mm 40s one was some sort of fluke frame......

EDIT: When you've settled down with folding you may like to try the Linux Client on a Virtual Machine.
 
I *might* but I think that's more the sort of thing for work's play servers if they ever get set up. I want to be able to use my comp without slowdown.

I'm happy saving the world an' all but it better not slow down my comp!

EDIT: On a seperate topic, are you really in France?
 
Yeah, 6 months in France doing up an old barn and 6 months in the UK saving up for the 6 months in France.:)

I just lower the priority of the VMWare program in Task manager and it doesn't seem to cause much slowdown.
 
If you're sure your computer is genuinely stable, use CTRL-C to interrupt the process in your command window and then re-start it using "fah -forceasm" which will force the use of SSE.
 
One other thing that I don't think has been mentioned so far, the SMP core cannot work with "Standard Loops", it will always engage the SSE optimisations regardless of whether the client thinks it terminated correctly or not.

This can lead to some rather confusing messages in FAHlog.txt where the client says "Using standard loops" and then the core says "Extra SSE Boost OK" but rest assured, SSE is ALWAYS being used.

This has the knock-on effect of the -forceasm flag not actually being needed to keep SSE on after a bad restart, however I would still recommend having -forceasm turned on anyway if you know your machine is stable.
 
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Well, how are your frame times compared to Booyaka's:

booyaka said:
to give you an idea here's my benchmarks

E4300 @ 3ghz
2gb of ram

Project : 2610
Core : Gromacs SMP
Frames : 100
Credit : 1523


-- CPU --

Min. Time / Frame : 22mn 04s - 993.86 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 22mn 36s - 970.41 ppd
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WoZZeR said:
Well, how are your frame times compared to Booyaka's:
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Sorry, thought I posted before but must have mucked up the edit somehow.

My min is 26mins and average around 40mins. Time left was 1 day and 10 hours this morning at 46% complete.
 
The average isn't that important, it is averaging all the lousy frames when you had problems, it will come down over time. The time left is also based on the average so will come down also.

Essentially you are just 4 minutes a frame outside Booyaka's times then.

I shouldn't worry too much, although I would compare specs with him and try to find the difference.

EDIT: SiriusB and myself have near identical frame times on similar specs.
 
Right. My spec:

E4300 @3.2GHz (multi of 9)
2GB DDR2 @ 357Mhz in 1:1. 4,4,4,12,16 1T timings.
650i SLI MSI Mobo
XFi-Gamer
Crappy 6500 Graphics mit hypermemory

Running windows XP corp pro mit service pack 2 and latest patch level.

HijackThis log file to show what's running:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 18:38:46, on 31/05/2007
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\CTHELPER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTXFIHLP.EXE
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\jusched.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CTXFISPI.EXE
D:\Program Files\Accessories\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\smpd.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
D:\Program Files\Accessories\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe
D:\Program Files\Accessories\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\mpiexec.exe
D:\Program Files\Accessories\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\smpd.exe
D:\Program Files\Accessories\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\FahCore_a1.exe
D:\Program Files\Accessories\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\FahCore_a1.exe
D:\Program Files\Accessories\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\FahCore_a1.exe
D:\Program Files\Accessories\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\FahCore_a1.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Chris\Desktop\FahMon_220\FahMon\fahmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
D:\Program Files\Overclocking\cpu-z-139\cpuz.exe
D:\Program Files\Accessories\hijackthis\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.co.uk/
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTHelper] CTHELPER.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CTxfiHlp] CTXFIHLP.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\jusched.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Steam] "D:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" -silent
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://www.msi.com.tw
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/wuweb_site.cab?1177322590608
O16 - DPF: {8167C273-DF59-4416-B647-C8BB2C7EE83E} (WebSDev Control) - http://liveupdate.msi.com.tw/autobios/LOnline/install.cab
O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: MPICH2 Process Manager, Argonne National Lab (mpich2_smpd) - Unknown owner - D:\Program Files\Accessories\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\smpd.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe

How, oh wizzards of folding do I make me cruncher go quicker - veet veet schnell du langsam WU!
 
Shut down everything (IE, CpuZ, Taskmanager, Steam, iPodService) turn off your screen and leave it alone - come back in an hour and your min time will be lower :cool:

Welcome to the world of the dedicated folder :D

Not sure but the 650i chipset is not the best for folding (still in top 8 of all time due to C2D support) the 965 and 975 are still kings.
Ram is nice and tight/in multipule and 1:1 so that's cool,
could go to CL3 if your current stuff will get their at increased volts, might be worth a try but your stats look nice and stable so IMHO I keep them as is.

A good PSU is also advisable (not just to protect your hardware) but stable rails are good for any type of number crunching (games or folding) and the effeciency help minimise the bills ;)
 
he he - my PSU is deadly - got a 580w Hiper type-R... just a matter of time.

I had everything off (except the IPod service which I will kill with extreme prejeduce once I've moved my comp) for several hours while at work and min time has not gone down.

Surely my chipset can't slow things down by 20% :O
 
In theory more that that as your E4300 is running faster. Chipset/Ram combo could acount for 10-15% I guess. Add that to that the fact that every WU with a 'WU number' is actually different.

I've benchmarks on many of the machines here at the office that differ by 10% per step on the same pc same WU
 
Now I am a 'Wise Guy' :cool: I suppose I ought to think of something intelligent to say.........:eek:

Perhaps you are right shadowscotland, perhaps it is a fluke that my benchmarks are very similar to SiriusB's.

Perhaps the way forward is to keep running for the next week or so and see how it goes, we can debate it then and if the situation is the same we can at least eliminate difficult WU's.
 
As with all computer setups their is so many variables.

I for one get better folding benchies with the geil 667@750 ram in my current rig (abit AW9D-Max 975x) than the ballistix 667@755 both with the same 'major' timings at 1:1

But in my previous [email protected] rig (Asus P5WD2 Premium 955x) it was the other way round with the ballistix@720 getting better results :confused:

Had both set of ram at 800 but I can't fold at thoses speeds - Don't you just love IT :D
 
I have that Geil DDR2 800 that was on special offer the other week, it's only running at 426/852 on stock timings, I must work it harder. I never tried SMP on my old memory which was Corsair Value Select, it was rubbish and wouldn't clock at all.
 
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