so how many of you have an EDR fitted and dont know it?

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Just curious to find out how many people dont know how widespread the use of EDRs (or Event Data Recorders ) are in modern cars.


most newish cars now include this but manufacturers have kept quiet about it with a small footnote snuck into most user manuals ala the current vauxhall insignias

https://www.vauxhallproductforum.co.uk/articles/2943.pdf

pg 271 for those wanting to see it.


is it just me or is this taking things a bit too far? fitting cars with a black box at point of manufacture. Personally i'm all for having a data recorder on board i'd like cameras too tbh but it just seems a bit big brotherish to start fitting these to cars with little or no mention of it
 
On one side, this may be good in case you crash and it's not your fault ( like someone claiming you reversed when they went in to the back of ya) and might help recover the truth, but, I can easily see why people wouldn't want em in, would it be hard to disconnect ? If the EDR is a separate device not integrated in the ECU or the On-board computer or whatever, I think it's easy to disconnect ? Matter of cutting the cables to it ? Personally I think a cheap 50 quid camera ( with audio, for example to record evidence if someone is violent or cops not sticking to the law/unreasonable demands)) which records the last 15-30 mins which is hidden for example on the other side of the mirror is a better idea, this can also be used in combo with a gps tracker for speed, far more handy than engine or brake data imho. I mean, that would be cheaper ( with ebay stuff you're easily done with 70 quid) that constantly monitoring stuff like braking or the engine.
 
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Doesn't really matter snowdog, if you crash due to excessive speed and you don't have one of these systems fitted, the police will still be able to tell ;)
 
Because I AM paranoid about the government, and giving them any more power than they already have, privacy is pretty much non existent:

CCTV everywhere.
ANPR everywhere.
Less cash more debit and credit cards being used all the time.
(here) Fingerprint database when you apply for an ID or passport you're forced to give fingerprints due to EU rules.
(Belgium, and idea shot down in the NL) Drop road tax replace by gps black box in cars to pay per mile.
Morons like BREIN, RIAA, MPAA trying to force ISP's to release internet traffic info.
Public transport chipcards.

You just have to **** off 1 person with a bit of power in the government and they can **** you for life.


To be more or less safe these days you have to have no ID card ( but a drivers license instead for example), don't drive, don't use public transport, don't have any credit/debit cards/bank accounts, walk around with a hoodie, etc.
If someone within the government would like to abuse his powers, he'd have no problem... Basically impossible if you lead a normal life.

Black boxes in cars are just 1 extra opportunity for some power nut to start abusing it.
 
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If Peugeot did fit one, then I can guarantee that after 2 weeks from new it would only work on a Tuesday provided that it hadn't rained.

:D
 
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