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So is it worth the upgrade?

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So I have an ageing 3570K still at stock, Gigabyte Z77X-D3H, with Corsair XMS3 16GB ram, and an R9 390X, an SSD (o/s drive) and a couple WD blacks in Raid 0.

Looking for some advise, is it worth the upgrade to possibly the following?

AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600X
Gigabyte GA-AX370
Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB

Or Just sticking with the 3570K build?

CBA with overclocking the 3570K, its still on stock cooler.

Maybe this needs to goto General Hardware.
 
I went from a 2500k @ 4.3 (which will be noticeably faster than you 3570k) to a 1600X.

In things that are capped by single thread performance (e.g. Minecraft, Kerbal Space Program), the 1600X is very slightly better, maybe 10%. In multi threaded (e.g. Cities Skylines, Ark Survival) it utterly and totally blows it out of the water. Things that maxed the 2500K run in 35-40% of the Ryzen. Also runs 20 degrees cooler under high load, and 30 degrees cooler under gaming load.

Friendly advice; double check that the board you have chosen can properly OC an X chip. Some Gigabyte boards, such as mine, have terrible bioses that ramp the volts up for an X, even with a teeny tiny OC that doesn't need anything like as much.
 
eddiew said:
Friendly advice; double check that the board you have chosen can properly OC an X chip. Some Gigabyte boards, such as mine, have terrible bioses that ramp the volts up for an X, even with a teeny tiny OC that doesn't need anything like as much.
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I have the same mobo and it's good for oc'ing :)
 
eddiew said:
I went from a 2500k @ 4.3 (which will be noticeably faster than you 3570k) to a 1600X.

In things that are capped by single thread performance (e.g. Minecraft, Kerbal Space Program), the 1600X is very slightly better, maybe 10%. In multi threaded (e.g. Cities Skylines, Ark Survival) it utterly and totally blows it out of the water. Things that maxed the 2500K run in 35-40% of the Ryzen. Also runs 20 degrees cooler under high load, and 30 degrees cooler under gaming load.

Friendly advice; double check that the board you have chosen can properly OC an X chip. Some Gigabyte boards, such as mine, have terrible bioses that ramp the volts up for an X, even with a teeny tiny OC that doesn't need anything like as much.
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Looked at the ASUS mobo and lack of dual bios kind of put me off. But from what @andy_mk3 said this one seems ok.

Quartz said:
I have a Gigabyte Z77 mobo and see no reason to upgrade from my i7-3770S.
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That's maybe because you have an extra 4 threads than me?
 
Is your rig just for gaming? If so what do you play?

You could pick up a used i7 plus a reasonable aftermarket cooler, get a reasonable overclock and it would be a fair upgrade for not a lot of money.
 
as people say in here what is the main use of your pc and what do you want to achieve ?

also budget. if you have spare cash and dont mind spending it depends on what games you play.some games will be massive differences.id also ask what monitor you have.if you on a 60hz wouldnt bother just get a older i7 or oc the i5.
 
I just upgraded from a 4770K @ 4.3ghz with 2400mhz Ram and a 1070 on a 1440p 144hz Screen to an R7 1700 @ 3.9ghz with 3200mhz Ram with the same 1070 and 144hz Screen and gaming feels tons smoother, fps feels pretty much identical but the speed at which the PC can swap between apps / web / games / youtube etc now is ridiculous, previously on my 4770k i would often get the odd bit of hitching in a game if i had Chrome open with my usual 12 tabs, so far ive seen none of this. Temps are much much better on the 1700 as well, but that may be due to a better AIO than my previous one.

I couldnt recommend switching from an Intel i7 to a Ryzen 7 enough, for me its a total no brainer, when your pushing well over 60fps anyhow and mostly GPU limited, adding the extra back end power with tons more cores etc is a god send. The fact i can now have a ton of random things open behind my game to flick between as i play makes life so much easier.

Why would you do that you may ask? well i play a lot of MMORPG's and ARPG's, quite often im following build guides on both websites and youtube and reading reddit etc, all of this stuff will hinder your performance on an i7, on the Ryzen 1700 its like nothing can hinder its performance.

If you can ditch an intel i5 for a Ryzen 6 or 8 core CPU, or even ditch an i7 and move to an 8 core cpu id definitely recommend it even for just gaming, as most gamers nowadays dont just spend the entire time in the game, quite often you have stuff open behind, Discord, websites, twitch, youtube etc etc. Total no brainer.

Obviously Intel make equivalent chips but you'll be paying a lot more cash for those, comes down to budget and what your happy spending at the end of the day i guess :)
 
Fellow 3570K user here and the Ryzen 1600 do look nice but you should know that in February/March, the Ryzen refresh CPU's on 12nm comes out and they should be at least +10% faster.

New motherboards (same socket) are also coming out in March.
If you are in no hurry to upgrade, maybe waiting 3 months is not a bad idea.
 
andy_mk3 said:
Is your rig just for gaming? If so what do you play?

You could pick up a used i7 plus a reasonable aftermarket cooler, get a reasonable overclock and it would be a fair upgrade for not a lot of money.
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Bluntwrapped said:
Sell the i5 and buy a used 3770k or 2700/2600k, a half decent cooler and overclock.
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~>Dg<~ said:
as people say in here what is the main use of your pc and what do you want to achieve ?

also budget. if you have spare cash and dont mind spending it depends on what games you play.some games will be massive differences.id also ask what monitor you have.if you on a 60hz wouldnt bother just get a older i7 or oc the i5.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys.
It does seem like the viable alternative is to just stick in a 3770k, shame they go so quickly in MM.

Main monitor is a 32" AOC 1440. The other 2 are 24" Asus 1080. I play a variety of games. I suppose AC:O kind of put it to light that I needed moarrrr cpu grunt though.
 
NinjaCool said:
Fellow 3570K user here and the Ryzen 1600 do look nice but you should know that in February/March, the Ryzen refresh CPU's on 12nm comes out and they should be at least +10% faster.

New motherboards (same socket) are also coming out in March.
If you are in no hurry to upgrade, maybe waiting 3 months is not a bad idea.
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That's another good shout, cheers.
 
If you drop in a 3770k for now, it’ll happily see you through for another few years (maybe even longer at this rate) by then an upgrade will hopefully seem much more worthwhile.

As above, DDR4 pricing is ridiculous and for what 95% of people makes 0 difference compared to DDR3 anyway.

Local CEX stores have great deals on used CPU’s I’d have a look there or online.
 
So i've managed to order a 3770k at a reasonable price. Now will the stock HSF from the 3570k be good enough for the 3770k, or am I going to have to get a new HSF too?
 
Get a cheapish but reasonable cooler with some thermal grizzly paste so you can at least overclock. You're virtually guaranteed to get 4.2 at low volts which is a nice 10% ish bump in performance.
 
Bluntwrapped said:
Sell the i5 and buy a used 3770k or 2700/2600k, a half decent cooler and overclock.
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This is what I advised my brother to do two months ago and he was very happy with his decision. As someone who just got rid of my 1600, I advise you to stay with intel if it's mostly for gaming.

Used the saved money to get a gtx 1070 or 1080 instead.

As for cooler you will only need something like the Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-cpu-cooler-hs-035-cm.html
 
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