So, sounds like a big one thinks no start button is bad also.
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Indeed. Metro works on a touch screen, very well from what I gather. It's just when you don't have a touch screen that it becomes an issue.
I'm running it on a non touch desktop and it's no problem for me. I'm wondering whether Samsung are trying to avoid/mitigate some of the support calls they expect to get.
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Where can I download that S Launcher gadget? 
Really?
I think opposite. I think not having a KB&M would be an issue. Ok maybe it would be an issue for my kid nephew who wants to play angry birds, etc...
But what about people who need to professionally interact with computer systems for 7+ hours per day?
If I was forced to use a touch screen and/or Windows 8 at work I'd probably become suicidal.
Yep. One of the reasons we're keeping schtum about Windows 8. Normally with a new OS being released we'd be all over our clients giving them as much information as possible about it and writing bespoke reports on how it would improve their individual IT infrastructures and needs. Hopefully none of them request to be upgraded just for the sake of having the latest version - we will warn them though.
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Really?
I think opposite. I think not having a KB&M would be an issue. Ok maybe it would be an issue for my kid nephew who wants to play angry birds, etc...
But what about people who need to professionally interact with computer systems for 7+ hours per day?
If I was forced to use a touch screen and/or Windows 8 at work I'd probably become suicidal.
I don't really see the relevance. You seem to be arguing against touch screens rather than Metro.
Unless you haven't noticed; Metro is designed for touch input, and Windows 8 is designed around Metro.
It's the whole reason they've gotten rid of a streamlined textual start menu and replaced it with a heavily bloated widget browser suitable for the fattest finger in the USA.
Widget browser for a work machine: For the love of god please NO.
Start menu for a work machine: Yes! YES!
I wonder what all the FE/HE institutes think of this. I don't think any college/university in the world will want to migrate to Windows 8.
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The UX with a KB and mouse is not one that is well designed or particularly nice to use.
But what about people who need to professionally interact with computer systems for 7+ hours per day?
If I was forced to use a touch screen and/or Windows 8 at work I'd probably become suicidal.
That's an argument against an input type, not metro.
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MS are not targeting this release at business. I can't recall where I saw it but there were some financial projections made that more or less confirmed this.
Windows 8 is aimed clearly at the consumer market. It will be tweaked so the experience is more slick. But more importantly by the time an enhanced version is targeted at businesses, perhaps in 3-6 years time, a large proportion of the workforce will have trained themselves
Windows 8 is aimed clearly at the consumer market. It will be tweaked so the experience is more slick. But more importantly by the time an enhanced version is targeted at businesses, perhaps in 3-6 years time, a large proportion of the workforce will have trained themselves
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Unless you haven't noticed; Metro is designed for touch input, and Windows 8 is designed around Metro.
It's the whole reason they've gotten rid of a streamlined textual start menu and replaced it with a heavily bloated widget browser suitable for the fattest finger in the USA.
Widget browser for a work machine: For the love of god please NO.
Start menu for a work machine: Yes! YES!
I wonder what all the FE/HE institutes think of this. I don't think any college/university in the world will want to migrate to Windows 8.
The loss of the start menu is a non-issue, you'd think it wouldn't be the case but then you start using Windows 8 and this is one of the changes which doesn't really cause an issue unless you believe a start button and menu are the pinnacles of user interface design.
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MS are not targeting this release at business. I can't recall where I saw it but there were some financial projections made that more or less confirmed this.
Windows 8 is aimed clearly at the consumer market. It will be tweaked so the experience is more slick. But more importantly by the time an enhanced version is targeted at businesses, perhaps in 3-6 years time, a large proportion of the workforce will have trained themselves
Given that no large business will roll out a new version of Windows it doesn't make much sense to say they're going to release a version for businesses in 3-6 years.
If they were so going to have something waiting in the wings then I don't believe they would have gambled on the metro design and unless it's a commercial failure I really can't see them backtracking on it.
It's far superior to having those same functions spanned over 5 different screens that's for sure.
Engineer A: "Hey, lets make Windows 8 touch friendly"
Engineer B: "Okay icon size increased by 500%, damn all of functions don't fit on the screen now"
Engineer A: "No problem, we'll get rid of the start menu and just have a full screen one"
Engineer B: "They still don't all fit"
Engineer A: "No problem, we'll add as many screens as we need and call it a Metro interface"
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I don't think they will release a version purely for business, as you say no large business will roll out a new version. But the next iteration (or one after that - hence the 3-6 years if they keep to a similar cycle) will be the one that MS really want to see business adopt, and they will have ironed out a lot of the niggles and inconsistencies that are present today in Windows 8.
I don't believe it will be a failure, and can't see them backtracking on it. I just think that the uptake in enterprise will be low at this stage, and I think MS are forecasting that themselves.
I think it could see a good take up in enterprise use but in the form of tablets, we have a windows enviroment and use ipads for some of our mobile workers and execs, and although the ipad is a great product, its not a full replacement for there laptops and cant run all our software etc, many of our users want to ditch there laptops altogether but cant yet. Windows 8 tablets might offer a great solution here because we've never had great success with previous windows tablets because of the interface, windows 8 could fit the bill perfectly it should integrate seamlessly with our existing windows enviroment. It will be interesting to see for sure.