So what have you found while fixing peoples computers?

[hittman]

invade his privacy???? its my computer/network, and i m responsible if anything happens. he was told not to do anything dodgy, especially porn, he said i just wannt play ccs and check my email, i thought ok, and went to sleep as i wasnt feeling too well.

Then i checked the software to see if it was genuine, i knew something wasnt right as before i went to sleep everytime i come in the same room, he was fighting to close windows! i m a student myself, i know the the behaviour of someone trying to hide something.

debatable issue here. IMO you don't have the right to invade his privacy but you have the responsibility to ensure the network is secure etc. You could have blocked access to the sites, which would have prevented him from accessing it etc. Installing programs like a keylogger is abit extreme and means you know all his passwords etc.

 

[JBuk]

invade his privacy???? its my computer/network, and i m responsible if anything happens. he was told not to do anything dodgy, especially porn, he said i just wannt play ccs and check my email, i thought ok, and went to sleep as i wasnt feeling too well.

Then i checked the software to see if it was genuine, i knew something wasnt right as before i went to sleep everytime i come in the same room, he was fighting to close windows! i m a student myself, i know the the behaviour of someone trying to hide something.

it does sound a bit backwards and it may be your computer and network but installing keyloggers and such to spy on him is invading his privacy

if you suspected such activites you should have simply not let him use your pc

 

[-Colli$ion-]

debatable issue here. IMO you don't have the right to invade his privacy but you have the responsibility to ensure the network is secure etc. You could have blocked access to the sites, which would have prevented him from accessing it etc. Installing programs like a keylogger is abit extreme and means you know all his passwords etc.

Its a private computer/network he was made well aware he would be monitored, but for some reason he choose to ignore that, and my computers are kept in tip-top condition virus scanner is fully up-to-date, all files are encrypted and backed up and i dont really appreciate somebody coming in and just abusing my wishes. End of the day i have to abide by network policies in uni etc they monitor everything you do and every website you go on, my network my policies/rules.

 

[hittman]

Its a private computer/network he was made well aware he would be monitored, but for some reason he choose to ignore that, and my computers are kept in tip-top condition virus scanner is fully up-to-date, all files are encrypted and backed up and i dont really appreciate somebody coming in and just abusing my wishes. End of the day i have to abide by network policies in uni etc they monitor everything you do and every website you go on, my network my policies/rules.

that is fair enough but I doubt your uni has installed a key logger, which basically tracks what each user inputs. The uni allows and prevents access to certain sites. Prevention is key imo.

Did you disclose the information you found out about your mate to him? does he know you know about his secret life/troubles?

 

[-Colli$ion-]

Did you disclose the information you found out about your mate to him? does he know you know about his secret life/troubles?

Of course not, i dont care what his secrets are, i just didnt want him using my network for things i expressly asked him not to, he hasnt been honest with me, after i woke up he said he had been playing with a css clan all the time, i can prove different.

 

[Energize]

Of course not, i dont care what his secrets are, i just didnt want him using my network for things i expressly asked him not to, he hasnt been honest with me, after i woke up he said he had been playing with a css clan all the time, i can prove different.

Then just block him, do you have no respect for your friends?

 

[-Colli$ion-]

Then just block him, do you have no respect for your friends?

Energizer wtf are you going on about, respect/privacy, how about respect for me then, i was doing him the favour letting him use my computer and the internet because he hasnt got a computer, he knew he was being monitored (probabily thought i was joking/ignorance) he abused my wishes and got caught out! tough luck! and you can't exactly just turn to a friend and say NO YOUR NOT USING MY COMPUTER, unless you want an akward friendship/no friend.

 

[Energize]

Two wrongs don't make a right. I'd rather be blocked from using a computer than spied on, I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who did that, it's much worse than visiting some dodgy websites.

 

[-Colli$ion-]

Two wrongs don't make a right. I'd rather be blocked from using a computer than spied on, I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who did that, it's much worse than visiting some dodgy websites.

Well thats fair enough, but in a perfect would i wouldnt want to be friends with someone that abused friends trust and was a pathological liar, but hay thats life. and playing devils advocat, what happens if he was viewing illegal content, who would be the one for the high jump??

 

[Monkey Puzzle]

Colli$ion - tbh I find your complete disregard for your mates privacy pretty creepy, and much worse than him looking at porn sites when you told him not to. You say that you were happy to let him use the computer to play CSS and check his emails, so why'd you then feel the need to go through his email account (using his details from a keylogger) to read personal emails about his relationship etc?

 

[-Colli$ion-]

Going through his email? when did i say that? never seen his emails, he didnt use his email. he played 10 minutes playing counter strike and about 5 hours browsing porn.

 

[Monkey Puzzle]

So I installed Key Loggers and software to record exactly what happens on the screen! low and behold once he went home I found loads of 'goodies' bear in mind he was told many times not to view porn from websites and if he does to use torrents as there generaly 'cleaner'.

He ignored all my wishes and I found out he was a 'rent boy' and a lot of other secrets not to mention his passwords to a load of websites and chat conversations.

Sorry, my bad, I'd assumed you'd invaded his privacy by going into his email account, but in fact you actually invaded his privacy by logging into his chat logs/msn or whatever.

Fair enough he went against your wishes and looked at porn, but how did that justify you going through his chat logs etc? That's not relevant to any concern you had about your computer's security is it? It's pretty much exactly the same as the guy who went looking into the lesbian customer's private pc files.

 

[-Colli$ion-]

Sorry, my bad, I'd assumed you'd invaded his privacy by going into his email account, but in fact you actually invaded his privacy by logging into his chat logs/msn or whatever.

Fair enough he went against your wishes and looked at porn, but how did that justify you going through his chat logs etc? That's not relevant to any concern you had about your computer's security is it? It's pretty much exactly the same as the guy who went looking into the lesbian customer's private pc files.

wrong again! not very good at this are you.

If you had read the post correctly, "software to record exactly what happens on the screen!" it makes a sort of video. On the internet he was googleing a lot of dodgy stuff such as "rent boy" and local area names with "rent boy" etc etc

He knew he was going to be monitored, he used the computer and literaly didnt care about being monitored, i suspected he had abused my wishes, so i reviewed the video (went to some random part in it, and it was a porn clip), so i decided to review the video in more depth then i discovered god knows how much porn etc

 

[LordSplodge]

The word "private" says it all. Its an abuse of trust. Rather like a shrink posting stories about their clients on an internet forum.

The psychiatrist example is a good one as they are required by law only to disclose information if the client is a threat to or has harmed anybody else. I am sure they don't talk to Mr Jones about his Winnie The Pooh fetish on an Internet Forum do they?

Sure some of the stories here raise a smile or maybe a little guffaw but let's stop to have a look at how the people on the flip side may have felt?

 

[Monkey Puzzle]

wrong again! not very good at this are you.

Clearly not, my knowledge of keylogging and spying software is clearly inferior to yours! Btw, even rhetorical questions should have a question mark at the end.

If you had read the post correctly, "software to record exactly what happens on the screen!" it makes a sort of video. On the internet he was googleing a lot of dodgy stuff such as "rent boy" and local area names with "rent boy" etc etc

He knew he was going to be monitored, he used the computer and literaly didnt care about being monitored, i suspected he had abused my wishes, so i reviewed the video (went to some random part in it, and it was a porn clip), so i decided to review the video in more depth then i discovered god knows how much porn etc

You still haven't explained why you felt the need to invade his privacy. I mean, why did you need to read through his conversations? How was that relevant?

 

[-Colli$ion-]

Clearly not, my knowledge of keylogging and spying software is clearly inferior to yours! Btw, even rhetorical questions should have a question mark at the end.

You still haven't explained why you felt the need to invade his privacy. I mean, why did you need to read through his conversations? How was that relevant?

I m in the 3rd year of a computer networking degree, its in my interest to know about key loggers, security etc

Tell you what, i will tell you why i felt a need to "invade his privacy" stright after you you explain his apparent right to abuse my trust and wishes?

 

[LordSplodge]

I m in the 3rd year of a computer networking degree, its in my interest to know about key loggers, security etc

Tell you what, i will tell you why i felt a need to "invade his privacy" stright after you you explain his apparent right to abuse my trust and wishes?

It would seem that your degree course is somewhat short of a ethics module and a legal module.

 

[-Colli$ion-]

It would seem that your degree course is somewhat short of a ethics module and a legal module.

Done both professional Ethics and Law, achieved 75% i know its unethical, i m just curious why people here seem to think its ok for him to do things i specificaly said not to, on the sly. but its not ok for me to monitor him.

 

[luckypapyrussam]

I'd be interested to know how many of you people would be happy if you found out the plumber you'd employed to fix your taps had been nosing about in your personal stuff? Not many, I would imagine.

People in a position of trust who rifle through someone's personal folders on a PC they've been asked to mend are despicable in my book - if you wouldn't want it done to you, don't do it to other people.

Shhhh!!! Just because you have a foot fetish

 

[hittman]

stop the bickering and share more stories.