So will the 6 core AMD will outperform i7?

Uriel · 10 Mar 2010 at 23:36

easyrider said:
Sick of the BS post's on crap hardware pimping.

Photoshopped OCUK shopping baskets to lure people into buying AMD.

Its sickening.

I had wondered if that was what's been bothering you.

Was fully expecting you to get an i3 and clock it before a certain comparison thread popped up. Still, I guess most people would have taken the i7 route for the price. Must have been all the more enticing though...

easyrider · 10 Mar 2010 at 23:44

Uriel said:
I had wondered if that was what's been bothering you.

Was fully expecting you to get an i3 and clock it before a certain comparison thread popped up. Still, I guess most people would have taken the i7 route for the price. Must have been all the more enticing though...

i3 was nearly in my basket then that 100 quid i7 came along.

Pendu · 10 Mar 2010 at 23:58

From what i have heard there may have been some tweaks made to the architecture. Could give it an extra few percent, every little helps.

easyrider · 11 Mar 2010 at 00:00

I'm genuinely interested in one if they are faster than i7 and are cheap.

Uriel · 11 Mar 2010 at 00:02

I thought half the point of i7 was not needing to upgrade for a few years?

rypt · 11 Mar 2010 at 00:06

Uriel said:
I thought half the point of i7 was not needing to upgrade for a few years?

That entirely depends on how inept and lazy software developers are.

Phatzy · 11 Mar 2010 at 00:14

we will have a good read tomorrow at guru3d

http://www.guru3d.com/news/tomorrow--11-march-2010-on-guru3d/

Uriel · 11 Mar 2010 at 00:17

Phatzy said:
we will have a good read tomorrow at guru3d

http://www.guru3d.com/news/tomorrow--11-march-2010-on-guru3d/

That die looks like intel to me. 6 sets of cache at the bottom... AMD haven't set out any dies out like that yet.

rypt · 11 Mar 2010 at 00:18

That looks like Gulftown to me

Pendu · 11 Mar 2010 at 10:54

easyrider said:
I'm genuinely interested in one if they are faster than i7 and are cheap.

You i7 will handle pretty much everything, 6 core CPU's are really only for the crunchers among us.

Uriel · 11 Mar 2010 at 12:16

Pendu said:
You i7 will handle pretty much everything, 6 core CPU's are really only for the crunchers among us.

I reckon an Xbox 360 port or two may be running 5 or more threads (3 core cpu with hyperthreading). Having said that I don't think there's a console port the current higher clocked quads can't handle so it will be one of those meaningless boosts where you go from 130fps to 150fps or something.

Edit: So to carity - in that situation I think 6 core will give a boost over 4 core AMD or possibly i5. i7 with hyperthreading should handle it nicely anyway.

gurusan · 11 Mar 2010 at 13:06

At 1900x1200 with AA and AF I don't think there's going to be a huge difference between processors as this is really a GPU limited situation.

psychas · 11 Mar 2010 at 13:12

its not going to be faster in games as most of the games dont utilize more then 4 cores , some of them even dont use 4 yet

Uriel · 11 Mar 2010 at 13:20

I've seen 2 games utilise 4 cores: GTA4 and Ghostbusters.

Any of you i7 lot noticed something utilising more than 4 virtual CPUs yet?

wannabedamned · 11 Mar 2010 at 14:11

Dragonage, Mass effect(after updates) and Mass Effect 2 also utilise 4 cores asfar as I'm aware and runs better for it.

gurusan · 11 Mar 2010 at 14:21

Yeah you go from like 150FPS to 200. Very noticeable :/

wannabedamned · 11 Mar 2010 at 17:12

gurusan said:
Yeah you go from like 150FPS to 200. Very noticeable :/

lol, noticeable or not the question was answered.

Saint row 2 also uses quadcore, and so does Supreme commander with the tweak.

Im not really looking to argue whether quad core is necassary, or I7 is necassary.

I do know if i was buying, I'd be buyin I7 though, but thats because I'd buy the best of the current climate when upgrading. No point buying subpar when you're willing to spend the money. But if i could wait, I'd probably wait and watch the AMD 6 cores, if they are better performers, I'd buy one of those.

rypt · 11 Mar 2010 at 17:32

wannabedamned said:
Saint row 2 also uses quadcore

SR2 is badly optimised, much like GTA4 though

Pendu · 11 Mar 2010 at 19:20

Found this AMD slide over at xtreme systems forum,

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=247035

Corasik · 11 Mar 2010 at 20:39

Martini1991 said:
No it won't be. It'll be basically a 6 core Phenom II.
The i7 killer will be Bulldozer, Thuban is not bulldozer.

They claimed Phenom II would be a core 2 quad killer.. It wasnt.... Bulldozer "MAY" be an i7 killer... or it may not be... but by the time it comes out intel is already working on both the 32nm die shrink of i7, and the next architecture update after that as well, so unless bulldozer comes out soon, it wont be competing against i7 anyway.