Socket 775 - So with it about to be replaced, what is it's fastest speed?

NeilF · 16 Oct 2008 at 14:15

So I'm just about to buy a Q6600 (on an Asus P5Q pro), which will hopefully overclock to well over 3ghz...

Let's move two years into the future to when Crysis 3 is (still) a complete CPU hog and my CPU is having problems...

What would I be able to replace my CPU with (on the same MB)?

Bradley8988 · 16 Oct 2008 at 14:17

E8600?

NeilF · 16 Oct 2008 at 14:21

Bradley8988 said:
E8600?

Surely in 1-2 years a lot of software will be making use of quad processors. Moving back to a a duo might be removing some horsepower?

Also, if my Q6600 is running say and 3.3, moving up to a 3.33ghz processor (OC'd to 4ghz) isn't much of an improvement?

I guess my point is, to some degree I've bought into the end of a 'line'... With little/no way to upgrade it?

crestj · 16 Oct 2008 at 14:22

In 2 years we'll all be running very cold, very low power quad CPU's at 3-4ghz.

It will be your M/B that will be obsolete!

NeilF · 16 Oct 2008 at 14:29

crestj said:
In 2 years we'll all be running very cold, very low power quad CPU's at 3-4ghz.

It will be your M/B that will be obsolete!

I'll already be running a quad-core CPU at 3-4ghz...?

My point is for anyone at the moment, or over the past X months who have say got a Q6600. There is no CPU upgrade path really?

Bradley8988 · 16 Oct 2008 at 15:21

in 2 years i wont be using a 775 cpu.

zykan · 16 Oct 2008 at 15:37

me either, i plan to upgrade to nehalem in q3 of 09. prices should be reasonable then. i'm building a new setup atm, i'm sick to death of no games on the laptop

i'll just sell the new build, should get a reasonable price since it'll only be 9-10 months old, and save a few pennies for nehalem or shanghai if that gets the reviews

NeilF · 16 Oct 2008 at 16:21

Bradley8988 said:
in 2 years i wont be using a 775 cpu.

Good for you

The point is, unless I'm mistaken, given one of the cheapest options available at the moment - the Q6600 - even that doesn't leave any sort of upgrade path? You have no choice but to bin the MB and CPU (& memory probably)...

Strife212 · 16 Oct 2008 at 16:36

775 is dead, what is out now is all that will ever be out

You could buy a QX9770 i suppose

NeilF · 16 Oct 2008 at 16:40

Strife212 said:
775 is dead, what is out now is all that will ever be out

You could buy a QX9770 i suppose

I guess we've got to hope that developers make more use of the quad processing power - signs are they are... So at least the current 775 quads had loads of power still ontap over the coming years! I'm upgrading now, don't want to again for a good few years!

rjk · 16 Oct 2008 at 16:46

your q6600 will be fine in the future

todays games and the near future games will take best advantage of the fast dual cores

then i7 will become as standard as core2duo
which will lead the way to better games

forcing you to upgrade anyway

why are you complaining/or even raising the issues

if you want your computer to perform well - you need to accept that you will have to stump up the money for the performance

helmutcheese · 16 Oct 2008 at 17:37

775 is still alive and will not be replaced mainstream till at least late 2009.

I bet you even see new 775 Mobos.

NeilF · 16 Oct 2008 at 17:58

rjkoneill said:
if you want your computer to perform well - you need to accept that you will have to stump up the money for the performance

Simply pointing out the fact, that with the entry level Quad processor you can buy, you cannot really upgrade from it without a complete overhaul.

When I bought my P4, I upgraded the processor, nearly doubling the processing power...

With a Q6600 - the entry level Quad - typically overclocking to well over 3ghz, can this be done? Hence my question/point...

Pulseammo · 16 Oct 2008 at 18:05

I'd go out on a limb and say that in 2 years time a Q6600 will still be fine. You certainly don't need any more processing power for running your OS and desktop apps put it that way, all that's in it is gaming and encoding if you use your pc for those things. If software is going to start going multi threaded quad core should be enough for a bit while software catches up imo.

If you are worried about upgrade path then cant some AM2+ boards take the 6 core procs that AMD has lined up later? (You're obviously taking a risk there as well, its too difficult to see into the future either in terms of upgrade path or what CPU might still be good in 2 years time). Theres no risk free easy option.

Edit: Correction - I said 6 and 8 core on the AMD, I think it's just 6 core Istanbul, the 12 core is a new socket I think, not sure there is an 8 core at all.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...e-amd-talks-shanghai-performance-roadmap.html

Edit 2: Uch that stuff is actually server / workstation not sure it applies at all.

Bassmansam · 17 Oct 2008 at 17:54

So what processor are you going with?

Fallen god · 17 Oct 2008 at 18:08

I would just go for the E8400/E8600, they should least you a good well, easily hit 4GHz and they work really well in games, and since nothing really takes more CPU power the crysis which is like 1 year old i wouldnt be too worried about it for now.

NeilF · 17 Oct 2008 at 18:28

Fallen god said:
I would just go for the E8400/E8600, they should least you a good well, easily hit 4GHz and they work really well in games, and since nothing really takes more CPU power the crysis which is like 1 year old i wouldnt be too worried about it for now.

Still tempted by a Q6600... Run it at 3.2->3.6 hopefully... Just can't help but feel future games will make used of those extra cores...

pastymuncher · 17 Oct 2008 at 19:07

NeilFawcett said:
Still tempted by a Q6600... Run it at 3.2->3.6 hopefully... Just can't help but feel future games will make used of those extra cores...

But like i already told you in the other thread, we were saying that 2 years ago and we are still waiting. There are some new 775 cpu's to be released (E5300, E7400) but none of them are high end ones. The fastest is the E8600. If you have the fastest core there will be no upgrade path. Next step is core i7 on socket 1366 (and others) and tri-channel DDR3. Basically, new everything.

Popov · 17 Oct 2008 at 20:14

You sure wont be able to get any of the new cpu types you would want to buy in 2 years time. I'm sure there will be other new stuff like ddr4 pci x32 or suchlike out by then so just forget about new chip on old board and get a new m/b at the time and bin the old one.

NeilF · 17 Oct 2008 at 23:59

pastymuncher said:
But like i already told you in the other thread, we were saying that 2 years ago and we are still waiting. There are some new 775 cpu's to be released (E5300, E7400) but none of them are high end ones. The fastest is the E8600. If you have the fastest core there will be no upgrade path. Next step is core i7 on socket 1366 (and others) and tri-channel DDR3. Basically, new everything.

So you are saying in 2yrs time games won't as a matter of course support more than two cores? I suspect you're wrong.

I recon the Q processors will have a little second lease of life with titles over the next couple of years when all of a sudden all that extra processing power is harnessed...