Socket LGA 1700

[birdmaniw1]

I have been reading posts online which say that it is possible to get lower CPU temperatures on motherboards using the above socket by putting washers under the screws holding Intel's CPU retention clip to reduce the pressure they put on the CPU. They reckon that because the clip puts pressure on the CPU in the centre of the long edges that it can cause the heat spreader to bend slightly meaning that it is no longer in intimate contact with the cooler plate as the spreader is slightly concave. Having just purchased an asus motherboard with this socket I can see what they mean. I am wondering whether I could go a stage further and remove the clip altogether and rely on the pressure from the cooler to hold the CPU in its socket. You could hold the CPU in its socket with some sticky tape down the very edges so it doesn't come out with the cooler should you need to remove it. You would obviously not be able to run the PC without the cooler as the tape would not hold the cpu in hard enough. My question is this, would the cooler supply sufficient pressure on the cpu to ensure it made proper contact with all the pins in the socket? Thank you for your help.

 

[Drumroll]

I would recommend against it.
The mechanism that holds the CPU in place also ensures the CPU won’t move around and damage the pins. They’re very fragile and damaging them pretty much writes off the motherboard.
I’m using a 12700k, well under control, using the EK 360 basic AIO. Before that was using the Noctua NH-D15S which was also performing without any issues.
Only mentioned that because so far, 2 coolers worked fine using the appropriate mounting mechanisms.
As long the case offers decent airflow, most decent AIO or Aircooler would be enough.
Don’t overthink it.
Would be necessary quite some force to create such gap. And as long the alleged gap which I’m not convinced happens, the thermal paste will fill that.
To avoid any chance of it happening, if it really happens, simply don’t over tighten the cooler.

 

[Tetras]

According to Tomshardware, Intel says "nothing to see here" and if you do anything to mod the mechanism you'll void your warranty, though I don't see how they'd know

Apparently they're still monitoring if the new socket design / ihs are causing issues, but currently have no plan to do anything.

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/new...warping-and-bending-issues-mods-void-warranty

 

[Speed]

I've had issues myself with both the Noctua D15-S and EK-AIO Elite 360 and my solution was just to buy a different cooler with a more curved base. My CPU was 2nd hand so its possible it was already bent however. I'd say if you are using a new CPU you are less likely to have issues but the issues are very real with Socket 1700. Seems to be a case of Intel cheaping out on the retention mechanism while still requiring silly pin pressure.

Interesting (if long) video on it demonstrating where the mod will help and where it won't: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezauy4as4lI

The tell tale sign (apart from the obvious stupid temperatures under load) is to do a test mount. If there is a lot of thermal paste in the centre (where the heat is generated) then you are likely to have issues. If it is fairly even or mostly around the edge then you should be fine.

 

[clone]

I have great temps on my LGA 1700 12600KF with a artic freezer 2 420 mm 22c idle and 28c odd while gaming this is running at stock.

 

[Fatpizza]

The Thermal Grizzly CPU Contact Frame designed for this pressure issue is now on the OCUK website for preorder. I wonder when it'll actually be in stock.

 

[JollyJamma]

The Thermal Grizzly CPU Contact Frame designed for this pressure issue is now on the OCUK website for preorder. I wonder when it'll actually be in stock.

This would more than likely solve the issues OP has.

Worth a preorder.

 

[Pro4TLZZ]

I have been reading posts online which say that it is possible to get lower CPU temperatures on motherboards using the above socket by putting washers under the screws holding Intel's CPU retention clip to reduce the pressure they put on the CPU. They reckon that because the clip puts pressure on the CPU in the centre of the long edges that it can cause the heat spreader to bend slightly meaning that it is no longer in intimate contact with the cooler plate as the spreader is slightly concave. Having just purchased an asus motherboard with this socket I can see what they mean. I am wondering whether I could go a stage further and remove the clip altogether and rely on the pressure from the cooler to hold the CPU in its socket. You could hold the CPU in its socket with some sticky tape down the very edges so it doesn't come out with the cooler should you need to remove it. You would obviously not be able to run the PC without the cooler as the tape would not hold the cpu in hard enough. My question is this, would the cooler supply sufficient pressure on the cpu to ensure it made proper contact with all the pins in the socket? Thank you for your help.

this is a complete misunderstanding.

Lots of people refer to Buildzoids's story with LGA 1700 but he has a lapped waterblock hence why the washer mod works for him.

You don't need to worry about washer mods.

Your cpu cooler (asetek nzxt i guess) is more limiting than any washer mod

 

[snarloas1982]

I have great temps on my LGA 1700 12600KF with a artic freezer 2 420 mm 22c idle and 28c odd while gaming this is running at stock.

28 degrees while gaming? Are you playing minesweeper? Surely its more than that.