SOE

Goberpiles316 · 30 Jul 2007 at 09:29

I was looking over http://www.mmogdata.com/ I am not sure how accurate it is but look at SOE's stats for SWG and Vanguard:

By goberpiles at 2007-07-30

I havent been following SOe recently I was an ex player of SWG for a number of years, I viewed EQ2 also it seems that SOE dont even have 500,000 paying customers over 4 games, how they ever manage to run a business I will never now, it seems on Vanguard they managed to lose 100k customers in less then 5 months.

Goberpiles316 · 30 Jul 2007 at 09:42

The SWG one was the Combat Upgrade, the vanguard one seems to be that they released an unfinished game from the reading up I have done.

Goberpiles316 · 30 Jul 2007 at 09:52

Just having a read on a game I am looking forward to Pirates of of the burning sea, seems SOE is being used to launch the game but the developers stay as they were which means SOE have no say in the game:

http://www.burningsea.com/pages/page.php?pageKey=news/article&article_id=10349

You can see no one trusts SOE by the devs replies assuring everyone that SOE have nothing to do with the game development.

Goberpiles316 · 30 Jul 2007 at 11:40

Edinho said:
Shows why you dont run a business, probably.

500000 subscribers would bring in roughly $60m+ annually.

Anyhow whats your point? Vanguard was a big pile of crap before SOE bailed it out. And to say SOE dont make a profit they have turned out more content and a better game than Blizzard have. But wait all that matters is subs and giving SOE a bash.

How can SOE of turned out a better game then Blizzard when one of Blizzards games has a player base of 9m paying customers?

I admit I enjoyed SWG better then WOW before they compleatly changed it and I think that the POBS looks awsome, I heard Vanguard was hyped to be good but you dont lose 100k paying customers if the game rocks!

http://www.mmorpg.com/index.cfm?bhcp=1 had EQ2 ranked as one of the highest games on the site yet it has 170k paying players

If you continuely to release a game after game that flops and you do not listen to the players how can you expect people to come back to you time and time again?

Goberpiles316 · 30 Jul 2007 at 13:23

I came accross this interview from someone who worked with Vanguard:

http://www.f13.net/index.php?itemid=561

Was quite a good read.

Goberpiles316 · 31 Jul 2007 at 18:43

The original character I owned Goberkain is still on Europe-Chimera, after I unlocked after compleating 30 professions I turned my alt char into an armorsmoth, I manage to build up to be one of the best on the server, when the NGE hit I stayed unlike most of my friends, but the CU was just so bad I just sold up and quit.

WOW has not kept me as hooked at playing as SWG sis I would often be up until 3am on SWG but I just cannot do the same on WOW, but it is currently the best online game on the market, and going by PC gamers top 100 games it is the best game on the planet currently.

SOE took a decent game with a massive dedicated following, broke it and then for good mesure broke it a hell of a lot more, in the first six months of the NGE they would have got back at least 50,000 subs if they rolled it back but they didnt and lost 100k paying players.

They lied on the forum about changes, they reward us for bad service with double xp and think thats all right, which it isnt, if things go **** up on WOW Blizz tell the truth and give you playing time back.

I remember the days in SWG on Europe-Chimera where you couldnt go to Mos Eisley because of the lag, I remember the days before vehicles and the vehicle bug too.

When I unlocked after 30 professions which represented at least 8 months of play time it took me another 6 months at least to complete my jedi template, Jedi wasnt a problem and it didnt kill the game, the NGE and the CU killed it, I lost about 75 friends with the Cu and the rest and myself went with the NGE.