Solar trickle charging.

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As I use my car rarely over the winter months, in January this year I installed a 40 watt solar panel connected to a PWM controller and this fed my new Varta car battery via an internal cable to my diagnostic socket. I then bought a diagnostic plug and soldered the cable to the positive and negative pins. Prior to the connection I checked the draw was 30mah. But after 3 months I discovered the battery was down to virtually no volts. I removed the battery and put it onto a mains trickle charger expecting it not to recover. I then discovered how the discharge happend, the PWM controller was dead and oxidised after disassembly. It was discarded and replaced with a Victron MPPT Smart controller. The Varta battery on charge recovered to max volts. Left the Varta off charge to see how long those max volts of 12.76 would last. A month later it still showed 12.66v on voltmeter. So added the battery to the car and monitored the solar charge now via Bluetooth on my tablet. I had added quick solar plug/sockets to the controller so I could disconnect to use the car, but on return reconnected them. All summer and autumn battery at 12..7v. But come November I noticed a small drop each week of battery voltage and now today 7th December down to 12.18v. Now my dilemma, is the Varta battery on the way out having endured a total loss last winter? Would a larger solar panel resolve the charging over limited sun in winter? I chose Victron 40 watt solar panel from results of reviewers saying in the Northern Hemisphere this should be sufficient. Any views on help on this would be appreciated.
 
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Lower temperature = lower voltage in a chemical battery. It could literally be the same charge but 15 degrees colder, causing a lower reading.

Solar panel will do almost nothing in winter though. I've got 2 solar panel arrays on my roof, each is rated 1kW but today I saw 55W during daylight. So you have <10% power and much shorter daylight hours.
 
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Is there any opportunity to get the car near to mains power? May be an easier and more robust solution with a standard maintenance charger over winter months.
 
Lower temperature = lower voltage in a chemical battery. It could literally be the same charge but 15 degrees colder, causing a lower reading.

Solar panel will do almost nothing in winter though. I've got 2 solar panel arrays on my roof, each is rated 1kW but today I saw 55W during daylight. So you have <10% power and much shorter daylight hours.
Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes I am aware that the colder weather lowers the battery voltage. Interesting about your solar panels giving virtually nothing, can't expect much out of my 40 watt!! Not having a smart controller last winter, I had no idea of the charge etc.
 
Is there any opportunity to get the car near to mains power? May be an easier and more robust solution with a standard maintenance charger over winter months.
Hi thanks for the reply. No sadly that opportunity does not exist here, hence going for solar. If it was my house I would install an external socket. The only option is to have the back door ajar which I will have to do come a bit warmer weather,
 
It seems like a slow enough drop to be honest - would it not make sense just to top the battery up monthly, or even take it for a drive? My last car did not like being left to stand at all, and after a couple of months unused it took a couple of tries to start it.
 
Just keep the battery disconnected during winter, doesn't sound like you're using it much so not much inconvenience.
 
Just keep the battery disconnected during winter, doesn't sound like you're using it much so not much inconvenience.
I agree. If I rarely used it I’d be taking the battery off and storing it in house. The warmer indoor temperatures will reduce the discharge rate a bit, and you can plug it into a maintenance charger.
 
I agree. If I rarely used it I’d be taking the battery off and storing it in house. The warmer indoor temperatures will reduce the discharge rate a bit, and you can plug it into a maintenance charger.
There appears conflicting views regarding charging batteries in the house. They advise giving plenty of ventilation, but no way when it is this cold outside do I open a window or external door. They all give off gas and so I have never done it before. I only have a Accugard 1.8amp maintenance charger.
 
There appears conflicting views regarding charging batteries in the house. They advise giving plenty of ventilation, but no way when it is this cold outside do I open a window or external door. They all give off gas and so I have never done it before. I only have a Accugard 1.8amp maintenance charger.

Just charge it up once with ventilation if you're concerned. The battery inside and disconnected will be stable on its own through to spring in my experience. You won't need to keep topping it up.
 
I never realised that this forum has so many trolls with nothing to do than type negative comments. For those ignorant individuals I have 22 years as a PC technician on all OS platforms and closing my post meant only one thing. I have received enough information from qualified members. As to the negative comments, best you get a life.
 
I never realised that this forum has so many trolls with nothing to do than type negative comments. For those ignorant individuals I have 22 years as a PC technician on all OS platforms and closing my post meant only one thing. I have received enough information from qualified members. As to the negative comments, best you get a life.

1. People are laughing because that's not how a discussion forum works.
2. Learn how to use the tools available to you to actually close a thread, clearly 22 years experience is not enough.
3. Please no more replies to my post.
 
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