Solar vs battery only

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I'm currently looking to get a battery system installed at home, but I keep wondering if I should go solar as well.

Here's my thinking:
My elec rates are currently 6.5p/kWh 00:00-05:00 & 28p/kWh outside that.
With a battery system, I can charge at 6.5p, and use that throughtout the day & use minimal electricity during the 28p period. This saves me 22p/kWh for most of my usage (lets call it 20p to account for inefficiencies etc).
I use ~5000-6000kWh/year during my peak period, this means if it was all at the cheaper rate, it's £1000-£1200/year cheaper than I'm paying currently.
I've been quoted ~£7500 for a 8kW, 15kWh system (which admittadly, is probably only just big enough, but is in the right ballpark). This would pay back in 6-8 years & with battery tech etc lasting ~10 years, this seems reasonable.
I'm aiming to go the more DIY battery route & approx half the installation costs, so payback should be even better.

However, with solar, From what I'd seen, I'll be looking at at least a similar amount again, and although it'll be free energy during the day, I'll still have the full rate evenings etc, so compared to battery, I'm saving ~7p/kWh 08:00-16:00 (lets say as an average, will be more during summer, less during winter), but paying 22p/kWh more 16:00-00:00 & 05:00-08:00.

So in my head, I'm thinking battery only is cheaper & saves more than solar only, and if I have them both, I'm only actually saving the 7p/kWh during the day, so I'd have to use ~100MWh of solar to payback a 7k solar install, compared with battery only, and this would take ~20 years on current usage.

Am I missing something here? It just really doesn't seem like solar makes sense, as it's more expensive, and it's got a longer payback period.

If it makes a difference, I also have an EV, but that's always charged overnight at the cheap rate. I don't have a heatpump, but I might do in the future, but it still seems to make more sense at this point to pay a couple £k more to get another battery than several times this for solar.
 
Surely if you plan to stay a while the biggest benefit is in both? Solar to charge the battery when you're out during the day with potential top ups at a cheap rate during the night and even if you're in at the weekend a suitably sized battery can be used primarily as the power for the house?
 
Sure, if I knew I'd be here in 20+ years, it might make sense to get them both, but it just seems like a long gamble to play, when it might, or might not happen, just to get close to fully self sufficient in 20 years time.
 
The problem with this is your return on the battery is entirely dependent on cheap overnight tariffs remaining as they are now. That is not guaranteed and it introduces some risk.
 
The problem with this is your return on the battery is entirely dependent on cheap overnight tariffs remaining as they are now. That is not guaranteed and it introduces some risk.
True, but going the DIY route, it should be <4 years, and seeing as cheap(er) rates have been around for decades, I think it's unlikely they'll suddenly dissapear. Maybe change quite how much different, but I think it's unlikely they'll go completely. More likely is there'll be an increase in multi-rate days (like octopus does currently), which will have similar payback periods.
 
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