[SOLVED] EVGA 1080 ti SC2 - Running over 80C with no OC

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Anyone got this card care to comment if this is normal? I bought it second hand a few months back, it was super cheap, guy showed me it working before I bought it, I've been using it since, a little OC'ing here and there but I've left it at stock as the boost clock reached up to 2,000mhz on the core and never really dips below 1,700mhz on a custom (50%) fan profile which is plenty enough for me.

The issue lies in heat, without setting a custom fan profile, when gaming even in a well ventilated case, the fans creep up to > 85% with temps sitting around 80C. So it's mega loud.

If I use a custom fan profile, it's perfect but obviously it drops it's boost clock down to around.

I've ordered new thermal pads and paste and will be reapplying when they arrive, if this doesn't solve the issue, is it RMA time? Or is this normal? All reviews I'm seeing place this card in the mid 60's under seriously heavy loads over a long time.

 

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I got the following:

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (1 gram, been a while since I reapplied GPU thermal paste so hopefully it's enough)
And 2 large arctic thermal pads, 0.5mm and 1.0mm

I'm also delidding my CPU and ordered liquid metal as well

Fingers crossed this fixes the issue. I'll run hitman for a few mins and show you standard no custom profile...

 

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So the below is with default fan profile after only a couple of minutes sat idle in a mission in Hitman 2 (note, this is any game, just using Hitman 2 for an example as it's a GPU intensive game)

Idle is around 50C always needing around 10% fan speed on default

This is my custom fan profile:

Granted, I'm still tinkering around with the fan profile as 60% is too loud imo but I can't go any lower because the equilibrium seems to sit around 85C at 55%.

Finally, here is going back to default profile after running custom, here you can now see the fans struggling to get the temps back down to stop thermal throttline (pink bars on perfcap reason).

Just to make the point, this is in a Fractual Meshify C TG case, 2 fans blowing at a comfortable rate onto the GPU, with just as good ventilation. It's hardly cluttered in any sense. I had the same issue in a Mid tower Lian Li which is actually why I got this case today and realised the issue isn't airflow.

 

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Those temps are really high considering how high the fans are. If it works changing the paste then order some more as 1g doesn't go far.

1g is purely for the GPU, think I should grab some more? Last time I applied thermal paste to a GPU was back on 2 8800GTX's when I was putting DD waterblocks on them lol

 

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Oh ok yeah that's fine, I assumed you would be putting it on your CPU as well, I got 3 applications on my 8700k from 1 gram.

I got left over paste for CPU, excited to see the drop after delidding it. I've been on a binge the last 2 days trying to get temps down. But it all seems to be pointing to my GPU being horribly inefficient. Found this earlier, stock thermal paste application on a FTW3 1080 ti (identical to my card, but with 3 fans not 2).

https://imgur.com/a/iQfDF

 

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holy **** that's crazy nearly half the die doesn't have paste on

It's either something like that, or the past owner wasn't fully honest and he has indeed opened the card up and just done a very bad job. All will be revealed on Tuesday when all the boys arrive.

Thermal Grizzly will improve temp for sure and higher fan curve in the middle as well
35%-40c
50%-60c / 60%-60c
etc.

I'll give it a shot. But I've tried higher profiles and it still ends the same. In order to stop thermal throttling it needs to be 70% minimum fan speed.

 

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Does your case have decent ventilation?

Very, I just upgraded from a older version of the lian li pc-a55. It was very cramped. But I just setup in a new case today in a fractal meshify c tg. I'm still using the micro atx board I had but I've for a new Asus Z390-E gaming on the way to make use of the space. I've got 2 120's on the front and a single 120 at the rear. Top vent open with just the dust filter on for ventilation. I have a bunch of 140's coming on Tuesday as well as a kraken x62 rev 2 to replace my air cooler (90mm noctua cooler).

I'll grab a snap shortly.

 

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Ignore the bad pic, it's 2210 here. Below the GPU is a tiny 1x PCI wireless card, about 1" long (soon to be gone), then a Asus Xonar STX ii. In front, are 2 120mm Noctuas, and a single 120mm Noctua at the rear. Nothing up top yet which is where the Kraken X62 V2 will go replacing the CPU cooler. Which, the 80mm fan on the back side of it was added today after removing from my old case as after testing, it actually helped lower the temps a little despite being smaller than the initial fan. Also, ignore cabling, it's all coming out in a couple of days again.

But as you can see, plenty of breathing room and fresh air hitting the card. Even with the window off. It's still reaching the above thermal throttling unless fans go nuts.

 

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If you have the cash, then get a Alphacool Eiswolf 120 GPX Pro.

I have one on my titan X and it's 20c idle and never goes above 60c in testing.

In all honesty, the Kraken X62 is more for my wife than me, I want to test it out for a bit as I'm curious what the AIO road is capable of these days. I got this case today simply to test if it was air flow. Money isn't much of an issue when it comes to PC parts, so if I STILL have issues with heat after replacing the thermal paste, I'll go down the RMA route. If it does fix the issue. I'll be keeping my setup until I get the next gen (skipping 2080 ti for now) and I'll go back into WC'ing. Been tempted for a while now (numerous threads) but ultimately can't decide on a case!

 

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The alphacool is not really a AIO.

I have a Alphacool Eisbaer 280 CPU(you can top up the water) connected to the Eiswolf.
It's a simple twist and connect system. So I have to 2 pumps and 2 rads connected together

If I were going down that route, I'd just stick to a custom loop haha, but cheers for the heads up mate. Might be something the wife will be interested in to get her into the water cooling side of things.

 

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What’s the card below the GPU? Soundcard?

Able to move it to another PCI-E slot?

Micro ATX (AsRock Z370M Pro 4), GPU 1-2, 1xPCI wifi card (literally about 1" long, barely covers half the first fan) and then Xonar STX ii in the bottom PCI slot. Asus Z390-E Gaming should be here on Tuesday, at which point the wifi card goes in the bin (thank god) and the sound card moved to the furthest slot down.

 

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The USPS system boggles the mind, everything (including the new case) was meant to be here late this week (Thursday'ish, 22nd). But now more stuff is arriving today on a Sunday. I miss Royal Mail... So, that means the CPU AIO, new mobo and the delidding kit. Fans and GPU thermal stuff should be here tomorrow.

So I did some further testing in the mean time, I tried these variations. Case fans to max, Sound card removed, sound card removed with all PCI brackets removed, and obviously as per normal. I also tried with no case side and no sound card... STILL hot.

All wielded essentially the same results, **** is running hot. So I'll keep it at default profile (loud) as not to run into too much thermal throttling and I'll update once I've replaced the GPU thermals. I'm hoping it fixes it as I really don't fancy an RMA jobbie.

Tend to agree with others, temps seem way to high.

Don't have the same card, but I do have an MSI 1080 Ti gaming. And on a custom fan curve, 60% at 60C and 70% at 70C (still pretty quiet)... in demanding games it hits low 60's at worst (though never very warm in this part of Scotland).

Good luck.

I'm on an island called Alameda in CA, it's around 12-15C here right now. Has been most of the time recently. Our inside temp is around 20C so still pretty brisk.

 

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Well, I'm done gaming for the night, installed new AIO and new mobo which was fun to tinker with. But the GPU got on my nerves. So I've ripped it out, paste doesn't arrive until tomorrow but I am too impatient... Heres what I found. Personally, it looks fine? Maybe a bit shy on the paste side. But... The screws were VERY light, barely any force needed, less than a single fingers strength to undo them. And it looks too neat for a factory job. What do you guys think?

 

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I have a 1080 FTW which was the same to begin with - 80c+ no matter what I tried. Stripped it down, repasted with Thermal Grizzly and boom 60c max.

Interesting, the thermal guff arrives today. I'll only replace the thermal pads visible in the pictures, no point taking off the backplate and heat sink bracket. If I still have issues, I'll then bother.

Fingers crossed this sorts it.

 

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Interestingggg, new thermal pads and paste applied, ran furmark for 15 mins with all case fans at silent (30%), there is a 280 radiator infront of the GPU now. And even then, it didn't break 75C at 60% fan speed.

It seems sorted! I'll now run Hitman 2 as I did previously and upload the results.

 

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Ignore the random blips with fans going up and down, I was trying with pretty much no case fans (25%) to 60% case fans. Temp barely changes. Seems to be solved! 75C was the max I hit, 65% fan speed is also the max I saw.

I've got some better fans to replace the cack Nzxt Kraken X64 rev 2 fans being delivered tomorrow, and add additional case fans as aside from the AIO, I only have one rear Noctua 120mm exhaust fan.

 

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Sounds about right for 75c. My 1080Ti FTW3 will only hit 75c with extremely demanding games otherwise mostly 60 - 65c. Though, the fans on it hits at most 1500rpm at 75c and mostly 900 - 1100 with most games with one rear case fan running at 5xxrpm and the rest off.

How loud is 23xxrpm for it?

It's barely audible during OW. Been playing for the past 30 or so minutes and it's at 50% fan speed and 61C. Hitman 2 didn't stress it enough to cap at 75C.

What do you mean 23xxrpm? 100%? It sounds like a bloody whiny tornado! lol

 

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Quick question, which doesn't warrant a new thread. Can you tell precision X or other software to run the card underclocked whilst not active? Mine sits at 1556 on the core when not used. Not essential. Just curious.

 

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It's barely audible during OW. Been playing for the past 30 or so minutes and it's at 50% fan speed and 61C. Hitman 2 didn't stress it enough to cap at 75C.

What do you mean 23xxrpm? 100%? It sounds like a bloody whiny tornado! lol

Answered my own Q, optimal power instead of prefer maximum in nvidia control panel