Sorry...another old PC upgrade question

[gasdoctor]

Asking the Hive mind.
I have this very old PC:
Intelcore2 dou E8400@3GHz (I remember clocking it..but no idea what its is now or this is clocked speed)
Asus PQ5 pro MB
Radeon HD4890
4GB DDR2 corsair XMS2-6400
Win10 64

It works...but in order to play ww2online I need 8 GB RAM.

OCUK dont have any in stock (not suprsised as ancient tech)
It does look like I can buy DDR2 modules at about a tenner per 2GB elsewhere.
So my question is...
Should I get 8GB of new RAM or risk adding in another 4GB of diiferent manufacturer
or
Is there a ddr3 MB still availble that would take my other components and get 8+ GB of RAM.
or
Just admit that this is too old and start saving for a new rig (as per a previous post)

Ta

 

[Leww]

I’d probably just look for used parts if you want to beef that up. I’m pretty sure people will basically give away ddr2.

I don’t know your financial situation and games you’d like to play but There are a variety of builds people will share with you.

I personally would start from scratch (maybe build it slowly as you find deals while you source used ddr2)

Provide budget, monitor resolution, games list

 

[gasdoctor]

Thanks
Got about 800 to a grand to spare.
Just need something to play ww2online with decent settings as it’s not available on console.

 

[H2S04]

did you say £800 to spend for a new pc or update your old system?

you can find mb ddr3 for lga775 on ebay, used one of course. and ddr3 ram u can find.

 

[Tetras]

It does look like I can buy DDR2 modules at about a tenner per 2GB elsewhere.
So my question is...
Should I get 8GB of new RAM or risk adding in another 4GB of diiferent manufacturer

I downloaded the QVL and I find it hard to understand, why do they specify 3 dimm sockets in a 4 slot board?

Anyway, the plus side is that they list a whole bunch of 2GB modules and some of them apparently work in 3 sockets, so I assume they'll work if you populate the whole board.

So, my suggestion would be that you stick the model number of the ones that work (or that match yours) into your preferred store(s) and try to pick one up cheap. I tried it with e.g. KVR667D2N5/2G and it looks reasonably plentiful (£10 for a pair), KVR800D2N5/2G wasn't quite so easy to find.

 

[MissChief]

TBH I wouldn't even consider an upgrade if you have £800-£1k to spend.

A quick and dirty AM4 PC:
My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 5500 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3D3-AM) = £128.99
• 1 x AMD Performance To Enhance Your Adventure - Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection (SKU: XX-039-AM) = £0.00
• 1 x Asus Prime B550M-A (AMD AM4) B550 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6F4-AS) = £119.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit (CMK16GX4M2Z3600C18) (SKU: MY-4BW-CS) = £68.98
• 1 x Crucial P2 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-070-CR) = £65.00
• 1 x BitFenix Nova Mesh TG SE A-RGB Midi-Tower, Tempered Glass - Black (SKU: CA-23N-BX) = £52.99
• 1 x Super Flower Golden Green HX 650W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black (SKU: CA-004-SF) = £64.99
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 6700 Gaming OC 10GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-3A1-SP) = £359.99

Total: £873.23 (includes delivery: £12.30)​

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You could even go a little bit further and improve things in some areas and it will **** all over your current PC. It's quite amazing what you can get for less than £1k these days.

 

[gasdoctor]

Thanks
Looked a bit more into what I want.
First off I just need a system with 8gb of memeory to play WW2online which is pretty undemanding in power requirements.
But...
I want to get back into flight sims, which will probably end up in VR (though not straight away)..not sure...mixed reviews..and track IR still seems better.
I assume VR takes a lot of power...

So...
Now I need a system that I can upgrade in the future if needed. Which means I can alocate more funds to it. Max £1200 (ish)
Im out of touch with cpus/sockets and assume that gfx cards are easy to upgrade...so maybe decent board and cpu and low/average gfx. So cna swao out cpu and gfx later if needed?

Though Im tempted to build my own..not sure I have the time.
Looking at the OCUK bundles:

Custom Gaming PC's Built to Order | Overclockers UK

Looking for the latest gaming PC? Explore our range of award-winning, customisable gaming computers, and configure your dream gaming PC at Overclockers UK.

www.overclockers.co.uk

for example: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...en-midi-gaming-pc-configurator-fs-021-tl.html

Thanks for any advice.

 

[MissChief]

Thanks
Looked a bit more into what I want.
First off I just need a system with 8gb of memeory to play WW2online which is pretty undemanding in power requirements.
But...
I want to get back into flight sims, which will probably end up in VR (though not straight away)..not sure...mixed reviews..and track IR still seems better.
I assume VR takes a lot of power...

So...
Now I need a system that I can upgrade in the future if needed. Which means I can alocate more funds to it. Max £1200 (ish)
Im out of touch with cpus/sockets and assume that gfx cards are easy to upgrade...so maybe decent board and cpu and low/average gfx. So cna swao out cpu and gfx later if needed?

Though Im tempted to build my own..not sure I have the time.
Looking at the OCUK bundles:

Custom Gaming PC's Built to Order | Overclockers UK

Looking for the latest gaming PC? Explore our range of award-winning, customisable gaming computers, and configure your dream gaming PC at Overclockers UK.

www.overclockers.co.uk

for example: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...en-midi-gaming-pc-configurator-fs-021-tl.html

Thanks for any advice.

If you have extra to spend take my build, change the CPU to a 5600X, add a 32GB Memory kit (MSFS chews through RAM) and upgrade the graphics card.

 

[Joxeon]

I'd go for this as the cpu has just released and is really stong so would easily be good for 5+ years and then for the gpu just pick up an RTX 3060ti FE which is in stock right now direct from nvidia for £369

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI Pro B660M-A WIFI DDR4 - Intel B660 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-36L-MS) = £159.95
• 1 x Seasonic Focus GX-750 750W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-06U-SS) = £94.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (SKU: MY-0AJ-TG) = £99.95
• 1 x Kolink Citadel Mesh Micro-ATX Case - Black (SKU: CA-051-KK) = £52.99
• 1 x Crucial P3 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-077-CR) = £79.99
• 1 x Intel Core i5-13600K (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6AV-IN) = £374.99

Total: £874.56 (includes delivery: £11.70)​

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[H2S04]

go with standard 13600 and mb b660. not with K. sweet lord. why would you spent money on K if no intention of overclocking.

 

[Joxeon]

go with standard 13600 and mb b660. not with K. sweet lord. why would you spent money on K if no intention of overclocking.

13600 non K isnt out yet and probably wont be till next year.

 

[H2S04]

only Z mb.

 

[gasdoctor]

Put this together but need to knock a hundred off.
Couple of queries:
DDR5 is it worth looking at this? (Price may make it a no though)
Downgrade cpu or gpx card?
Im happy to overclock (in fact need the ability too..but I’m out of touch about boards) so need a board that will.
What cooling?
What am I missing to build this (except OS)


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI Pro B660M-A WIFI DDR4 - Intel B660 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-36L-MS) = £159.95
• 1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) (SKU: AC-000-AC) = £5.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (SKU: MY-0AJ-TG) = £99.94
• 1 x Crucial P2 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-070-CR) = £65.00
• 1 x Kolink Citadel Mesh Micro-ATX Case - Black (SKU: CA-051-KK) = £52.99
• 1 x Phanteks AMP 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-09Q-PT) = £74.99
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 6700 XT Pulse Gaming 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-39K-SP) = £479.98
• 1 x Intel Core i5-13600K (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6AV-IN) = £374.99

Total: £1,325.53 (includes delivery: £11.70)​

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