South Africa

Aod said:
I'm Zimbabwean! does that count?
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First zimbo I've met who wants to be classed as a saffer. :confused:

Born and lived in pretoria for 30 years and been in uk for the last 10. Keep thinking its time to stiop saying I'm south african, as I won't ever go live there again - fine for holidays.
 
interesting just randomly looked at south africa on wiki lol

According to a survey for the period 1998–2000 compiled by the United Nations, South Africa was ranked second for murder and first for assaults and rapes per capita.[129] Official statistics show that 52 people are murdered every day in South Africa.[130] The reported number of rapes per year is 55,000,[131] and it is estimated that 500,000 rapes are committed annually in South Africa.[132] Total crime per capita is 10th out of the 60 countries in the data set.

Rape is a common problem in South Africa, in a 2009 survey one in four South African men admitted to raping someone.[133] One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been raped in the past year.[134] South Africa has some of the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world.[135] In a related survey conducted among 1,500 schoolchildren in the Soweto township, a quarter of all the boys interviewed said that 'jackrolling', a term for gang rape, was fun.[134]

Middle-class South Africans seek security in gated communities. Many emigrants from South Africa also state that crime was a big motivator for them to leave. Crime against the farming community has continued to be a major problem.[136]

Along with many African nations, South Africa has been experiencing a "brain drain" in the past 20 years. This is believed to be potentially damaging for the regional economy,[137] and is almost certainly detrimental for the well-being of the majority of people reliant on the healthcare infrastructure, given the HIV/AIDS epidemic.[138] The skills drain in South Africa tends to demonstrate racial contours (naturally given the skills distribution legacy of South Africa) and has thus resulted in large white South African communities abroad.[139]

In May 2008 societal hostility to African migrants exploded in a series of pogroms that left up to 100 people dead and 100,000 displaced.[140]
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Still would love to go :)
 
[FnG]magnolia;18425912 said:
Can you elaborate? Sounds interesting.
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The freedoms, opportunities and safety infrastructure (both in terms of crime and support if needed) are far greater here. Whilst I complain about the UK I am still amazed by how well most things work here. I mean you post a letter and it arrives next day (most of the time anyway) - in SA you are amazed if it arrives.

I also like a lot of people who fought for the end of apartheid feel a bit betrayed by the ANC government. Corruption was endemic in the old white government and naively I hoped that the new one would be different. Only difference is the colour of the skin.
 
If asked, I am Zimbabwean, legally, I am British, technically, I am half South African.

Born and raised in Zimbabwe (>18years) then moved to London where I have been for 8 years, so am now British. My father is South African though, and when I was born he registered my birth in SA, so I am South African too :)

hood1971 said:
First zimbo I've met who wants to be classed as a saffer. :confused:
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So true! Almost all Zimbabweans will go out of their way to stress to you that they are not South Africans, similar to the Kiwi / Aussi situation.
 
hood1971 said:
I mean you post a letter and it arrives next day (most of the time anyway) - in SA you are amazed if it arrives.
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Now that is not quite true, in SA the post normally arrives although it's a week late and usually already opened and devoid of anything of worth.
Zimbabweans won't only go out of their way to stress they are not South African, but will also insist on actually being Rhodesian
Despite that, I miss my Zimbo workmate who left few months ago, we could always have a good chat in Afrikaans about our beloved management !
 
Hey bru, I'm also South African! Been living here in London for 6 years since I have a British passport since my mom is English. Place has gotten worse since I left. My parents who are still there had to buy a generator since they keep having blackouts there since all the skilled people have left and they can't fix the power grid properly apparently. Also during the strikes there last year my mom had to go in to the hospital where she worked in HR to feed the patients who had been abandoned by the nurses and would otherwise have starved. And my younger brother who just finished high school had to go to school in plain clothes since he would be harassed by strikers if he went in uniform.
 
Yep I was born in Port Elizabeth. Moved here about 12 years ago now but miss my home country dearly. I go back for holidays every so often, it is just such a shame that the country is in ruins in many places :(
 
Dutchman said:
Now that is not quite true, in SA the post normally arrives although it's a week late and usually already opened and devoid of anything of worth.
Zimbabweans won't only go out of their way to stress they are not South African, but will also insist on actually being RhodesianDespite that, I miss my Zimbo workmate who left few months ago, we could always have a good chat in Afrikaans about our beloved management !
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On the bolded line, that is not entirely true. In my experience, most (white) Zimbabweans born before independence (<1980) claim to be Rhodesian, any born after that don't (I am 1984, and I don't know anyone from my generation who has ever claimed to be Rhodesian).
 
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