Southern Softies

Scania said:
I’m wondering if my nigh 2 ton near 20yr old 7 Series is any better or worse than modern cars in the snow, it’s got wide low profile tyres (although tbh similar sizes these days are found on cars like Astras etc) I had no issues (despite living on a hill with untreated roads) but saw no end of people stuck simply because they thought flooring the throttle was the way to make progress, seems to be down to lack of experience and / or common sense from what I’ve observed.

I had a delivery last week where I sat for two hours waiting for the goods in staff to arrive eventually a guy walked in having abandoned his car at the bottom of the hill the industrial estate was on, the same hill I’d driven up earlier and the only issue I had leaving was negotiating the plethora of dumped cars - and 4x4’s....

Bar a few locations it’s not been particularly bad imo yet as you say from media reports you’d think the second ice age had arrived with a vengeance!
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I'm not saying experience and driver knowledge account for nothing but driving on snow was definitely easier in a smaller lighter mk1 astra on pram tyres than it is in today equivalent which is much larger, much heavier and will have much wider tyres. That combined with the distances involved in a modern commute really does mount up and we get less snow these days even up north!
 
a1ex2001 said:
I'm not saying experience and driver knowledge account for nothing
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it counts for more than the car, i'd say. people just aren't taught how to handle anything other than a normal road, and they think all the gubbins on the car will do it for them. someone w/ common sense/experience and a 2WD car will usually get further safer than a noob in a 4WD who thinks the car will take car of everything for them.
 
The biggest problem imo is we as learners are taught how to pass a driving test, not how to drive.

No amount of lessons will count against experience but until we are taught the principles and dynamics of driving our inability to cope with anything other than fair weather conditions won’t improve.
 
Doesn't matter how good your 4x4 on winter tyres is... If Doris in her fiesta blocks the road you aint getting past.

I had 40 drivers out on thurs and friday last week and it wasn't fun. Most didn't have any issues but cornwall and devon were a write off and Bristol was very difficult.

modern cars can be a pain to drive too. Traction control just doesn't help when its slippy and if you can't turn it off your buggered.
 
God there are a lot of slappers up north. :p

Wish they were that brave here in Brighton!

... Or maybe I don't actually, have no idea what they're packing downstairs. :eek:
 
Seriously what does the cloakroom in a club in Newcastle cost? £1? I knew people up north were generally poor but sheesh! ;)
 
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