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hey peeps

the last few years ive become a bit of a Peter F Hamilton fanboy having read Mispent youth, the commonwealth saga, the void trilogy and most recently great north road but are there other books out there that are similar or at least along the same lines ive spent ages looking but cant decide which ones are decent

anyone have any suggestions?
 
EON by Greg Bear is excellent though possibly not space opera.

Also check out John Meaney's Ragnarok series. Still waiting for book three to be released but Absorption and Transmission were really good!
 
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David Weber - Honor Harrington series. /thread.


Why do people do this? Name one book or series (usually a bad one) and think they can claim an end to the argument. Is it supposed to be funny? The HH books are Hornblower in Space. Read the real thing and don't bother with Weber's pale imitation. Elizabeth Moon does it better as well, if you stick to true SF.

I agree with the Banks, but he's only just Space Opera. True Space Opera is pretty much dead in print, and has been for fifty years. Harry Harrison was mocking it (in Bill the Galactic Hero) right back in the Seventies. E E "Doc" Smith is acknowledged master, but his style is VERY dated (the books date back to the 1930s). Many writers have a dabble, though. The series by Walter Jon Williams starting with The Praxis is fun. The books of Neal Asher are pretty much Space Opera: start with "Gridlinked". Simon R Green also writes the stuff, mainly the "Deathstalker" series: not great literature, but great fun. Alistair Reynolds gets close in some of his books as well. But as I said, it's rare these days.
 
Sorry but I wouldn't agree that the Hornblower books are that much better, or better at all than the HH books by Weber (and yes I have read them). Personally I thought that the Hornblower books were not very good at all and they are not what the OP wants anyway.

I would agree that Elizabeth Moon is good but I wouldn't call her books Space Opera just normal sci-fi, in the same way as Lois McMaster Bujold is.

I do enjoy E. E. Doc. Smith though.
 
E. E. 'Doc' Smith is full! Of Wonderment! About technology! That moves so fast! Like the blink of an eye!

:p

Hyperion Cantos I guess is Space Opera(?) and excellent :)
 
I would agree that Elizabeth Moon is good but I wouldn't call her books Space Opera just normal sci-fi, in the same way as Lois McMaster Bujold is.

I do enjoy E. E. Doc. Smith though.



As I said, no-one is writing classical Space Opera these days. And while I agree that Forester is not brilliant, he's still better than Weber. Patrick O'Brian is obviously way better than both. Forester is like Tolkein: most of the praise is for (re)inventing the genre, and putting all the little detail in. Not the (lack of) style.

But part of the problem is that the definition of "Space Opera" has changed over the years. The original definition goes back to the 1930s, where it was used to describe a now mostly dead style of SF which was clearly just the Wild West in space: lone astronauts travelling from planet to planet, righting wrongs, fighting aliens (i.e. Indians), etc, etc. Awake readers will realise that this means "Firefly" was Space Opera. This style kept going right into the 1950s with people like Jack Williamson. But the definition changes during the 1940s and 1950s to the "Doc" Smith stuff: big space battles, big space ships, big weapons etc. Everything on a grandiose scheme was the main requirement. Most importantly, it has almost always been a term of abuse, or at least dismissal.

The scale of books like the "Lensmen" is vastly bigger than anyone writes today, but for a good reason. People wrote books like that back then because they were mostly useless at writing about people. And all great art is about people. Nowadays, even if huge events are happening (like Iain Banks tends to do) the focus is still on the characters, and the exploding planets are so far away that you can just casually mention them. So that little genre is pretty much defunct. The battles in Moon's books may be small, but almost no-one else has battles at all, never mind bigger ones.
 
I'm a big Peter Hamilton fan. I've just read the Exiles series by a chap called Dan Worth. Its a trilogy, with the 1st book free as an ebook, and really enjoyed it. I'd also recommend the Shoal series by Gary Gibson, Ragnarok series by John Meaney, spinward fringe by Randolph Lalonde and the phoenix series by richard Sanders.
 
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Another option would be Jack Campbell's The Lost Fleet Series. I also thoroughly enjoyed Simon Greenes Deathstalker Series and the first few books of Kevin Anderson's Saga Of The Seven Sons series (athough I felt it ran out of steam with books 6 and 7)

I also would check out some Star Wars books as later in the SW timeline there are some great series. My favourite being The New Jedi Order series. 19 books (or so)!
 
Would Arthur C Clarke's Rama series be classed as a space opera as it's amazing.

(Sorry, not really sure what a space opera is!)
 
I can second Dan Simmon's Hyperion Cantos and after that, the Endymion Cantos. Absolutely stunning set of works, with a lot of clasical literature references (In fact, Keats plays a big part).
 
As others have said, Dan Simmons and Neal Asher (although some of his later ones are a bit self-indulgent and repetitive, still lots of love for Mr. Crane), and Banks obviously, both his Culture and Non-Culture books.

Also...

The Shoal Sequence by Gary Gibson (3 books, 4th incoming).

The Frank Herbert (and only Frank) Dune books.

Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence stuff.
 
Hi,

After reading the thread, I would like to throw in my suggestion (and yes it can be read as a Hornblower in space).

I would really recommend, Midshipman's Hope by David Feintuch, it is a great story about responsibility versus immaturity, but it also has a brilliant style. The science seems a tad old fashioned, but the characters and story are great.

Cheers

Von
 
Hi,

After reading the thread, I would like to throw in my suggestion (and yes it can be read as a Hornblower in space).

I would really recommend, Midshipman's Hope by David Feintuch, it is a great story about responsibility versus immaturity, but it also has a brilliant style. The science seems a tad old fashioned, but the characters and story are great.

Cheers

Von

Yep, the first three of those are really good :)
(I've got a signed copy of Fisherman's Hope)
Sadly, after that the last three books rather go to pot. Voices of Hope is painful, and while the final two are acceptable, they're nowhere near the peaks of the other three.

David Weber is acceptable, but he's suffering very badly from slowing down in his later books, and some of them are pretty iffy (Out of the Dark for example), so I'd stick to the earlier volumes there.

-Leezer-
 
For Light Hearted comedy Value:

Harry Harrison - Stainless Steel Rat Series or Bill The Galactic Hero Series

Douglas Adams - The Hitch-Hikers Guide To The Galaxy (Although I believe the radio "fits" were betterer)
 
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