Im not trolling actually, why would me having the money be the same as me giving you the money? I'm simply someone looking for a high end PC and looking to make the right choices and not jump right in and find out that some component or other would have been faster or better for the job.
Spec £4500 budget
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Plenty of reasons why someone could have that amount for a PC.
And why troll this? It's not even offensive or provocative.
Okay, If you feel you are not a troller. From our point of view you have all this money to spend on gear but if you had that much money you would know that should shouldnt trust random people to spec you a computer. Your choice of gear looks pretty strange as well, why bother with 2 5970 when 1 is overkill. 4tb storage, best to get it when you need it.
A top of the range blu-ray optical drive. The list goes on what is wrong with this rig, and spending 4.5k for a gaming machine, your looking at research machine their.
Really buy 8 sets of components for the next 8 years and sell what you have left over and you will have the latest best spec for all this high res gaming you want..
22" monitor makes me laugh as well, get a 30" dell with that money and drop your second gfx..
Why am I even feeding this troll :/
A top of the range blu-ray optical drive. The list goes on what is wrong with this rig, and spending 4.5k for a gaming machine, your looking at research machine their.
Really buy 8 sets of components for the next 8 years and sell what you have left over and you will have the latest best spec for all this high res gaming you want..
22" monitor makes me laugh as well, get a 30" dell with that money and drop your second gfx..
Why am I even feeding this troll :/
*sigh*
"From our point of view you have all this money to spend on gear but if you had that much money you would know that should shouldnt trust random people to spec you a computer."
Why? The vast majority of you seem nice ad have a far more in-depth knowledge of computers and hardware than i do, so why not ask some experts when you want the best?
"Your choice of gear looks pretty strange as well, why bother with 2 5970 when 1 is overkill. 4tb storage, best to get it when you need it."
Will one be "overkill" in 2-3 years? I am wanting this system to last a long time and still be considered a good set-up in a couple of years time. As for the Hard drives, I currently have roughly 1TB of data, again, although it may seem overkill im hoping to keep these hard drives at least until large SDDs become reasonably priced (or even exist)
"22" monitor makes me laugh as well, get a 30" dell with that money and drop your second gfx.."
due to size constraints of my current desk, 22' is roughly all i can fit in there, again, the cards are for keeping the system at the top for a fair while.
and finally:
"Why am I even feeding this troll :/"
Your not.
"From our point of view you have all this money to spend on gear but if you had that much money you would know that should shouldnt trust random people to spec you a computer."
Why? The vast majority of you seem nice ad have a far more in-depth knowledge of computers and hardware than i do, so why not ask some experts when you want the best?
"Your choice of gear looks pretty strange as well, why bother with 2 5970 when 1 is overkill. 4tb storage, best to get it when you need it."
Will one be "overkill" in 2-3 years? I am wanting this system to last a long time and still be considered a good set-up in a couple of years time. As for the Hard drives, I currently have roughly 1TB of data, again, although it may seem overkill im hoping to keep these hard drives at least until large SDDs become reasonably priced (or even exist)
"22" monitor makes me laugh as well, get a 30" dell with that money and drop your second gfx.."
due to size constraints of my current desk, 22' is roughly all i can fit in there, again, the cards are for keeping the system at the top for a fair while.
and finally:
"Why am I even feeding this troll :/"
Your not.
You can always wait till the new Nvidia cards come out sometime, should be shortly right?
I doubt you'd need a new PC right now, and you can also wait for the i9 processors too.
4.5k is a lot to spend on a PC though, regardless. It is better to spend around £1500 now which will give you a really top spec, then in 2 - 3 years spend the same, then in 2 - 3 years spend the same. Your PC will be less obsolete over time so it'll last a lot longer, yet you'd be spending the same amount of $$$.
I doubt you'd need a new PC right now, and you can also wait for the i9 processors too.
4.5k is a lot to spend on a PC though, regardless. It is better to spend around £1500 now which will give you a really top spec, then in 2 - 3 years spend the same, then in 2 - 3 years spend the same. Your PC will be less obsolete over time so it'll last a lot longer, yet you'd be spending the same amount of $$$.
Well, I'd say if you don't have anything else to spend your money on except a PC, then I say be more reasonable with the specs at least... I mean come on, i7 975 for that much money when you can save £400 odd by getting the 920 instead and OCing it, which would give you all the performance you need for a very long time.
There are lots more that could be refined for a better price/performance ratio.
Look at it this way.... that £500 odd saved by just down grading the processor a bit gives you money to upgrade it again in 2 or 3 years time, or maybe spend it on something else like a few weeks holiday....
There are lots more that could be refined for a better price/performance ratio.
Look at it this way.... that £500 odd saved by just down grading the processor a bit gives you money to upgrade it again in 2 or 3 years time, or maybe spend it on something else like a few weeks holiday....
Wait for the 1366 dual socket motherboard to come out before splashing out.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18096927
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18096927
Right first off all like said, just because you have the money for it, don't mean you can spend all of it on just the base unit, just think of how many beers you can buy 
get rid of the 975, and get the 920 it will not overclock no higher than you are able to do it, both will get 4.0Ghz very easy even on air, the difference between them is only the unlocked multiplier.
secondly, get only one HD5970, one is enough, unless you plan on sorting your screens out.
do you really need over 4tb of space? I would get only one WD 2TB for the moment or two 1tb and stick them in raid. the SSD is fine
you need a powersupply, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-013-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1084 don't know what else you plan to run in it so on the safe side, also you didn't state if you got one or not.
so what case you going to use for it?
RAM your best off with only 6Gb easy to overclock see, always add more, also I7 don't really seem to gain much out of faster RAM.
see now you probably saved getting on for 1k, which you can use to justify your HD5970, in other words put it in for screens instead.
also why 2 blu ray RW? why not one Blu ray RW and one DVD RW? again quite a big saving there
get rid of the 975, and get the 920 it will not overclock no higher than you are able to do it, both will get 4.0Ghz very easy even on air, the difference between them is only the unlocked multiplier.
secondly, get only one HD5970, one is enough, unless you plan on sorting your screens out.
do you really need over 4tb of space? I would get only one WD 2TB for the moment or two 1tb and stick them in raid. the SSD is fine
you need a powersupply, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-013-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1084 don't know what else you plan to run in it so on the safe side, also you didn't state if you got one or not.
so what case you going to use for it?
RAM your best off with only 6Gb easy to overclock see, always add more, also I7 don't really seem to gain much out of faster RAM.
see now you probably saved getting on for 1k, which you can use to justify your HD5970, in other words put it in for screens instead.
also why 2 blu ray RW? why not one Blu ray RW and one DVD RW? again quite a big saving there
I think the guy is best waiting till Intel releases their six core i9 or i7 980X wotever it's gonna be called and Nvidia releasing their Fermi cards before making the choice.
I have about £4000 budget to spend on my next build which is gonna be high end, though im not saying im gonna spend as much as that.
I have about £4000 budget to spend on my next build which is gonna be high end, though im not saying im gonna spend as much as that.
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This community is indeed a relatively well informed one.
While some of us are penniless students, not all. Why do you think that none of these nominally well informed people have put a computer together that resembles the one you've suggested in the OP?
Perhaps it's because we bother to spend the few hours required to pick the right components for the task, instead of going down a list clicking the most expensive ones.
As an example, 2ghz ram gets you no performance increase over 1600mhz ram, arguably not even over 1333mhz ram. x58 moved to triple channel, bandwidth is so ludicrously overspecified for a single socket system that ram frequency just doesn't matter. That's assuming you can get it to run at 2ghz at all, as fair few people can't.
If you're not using phase and it isn't free, you don't buy the 975. It will not run faster than the 920 on air, and it will not run faster than the 950 under water.
Your build idea is not a well informed one. As such I second the motion to buy a complete unit from ocuk, as you are evidently disinclined to research things yourself. Watercooling in particular is very unforgiving of ignorance, so I'd warn you off that until you're inclined to spend a long, long time researching it.
Best of luck, and here's hoping you're not yet another poorly informed and easily amused 14 year old.
While some of us are penniless students, not all. Why do you think that none of these nominally well informed people have put a computer together that resembles the one you've suggested in the OP?
Perhaps it's because we bother to spend the few hours required to pick the right components for the task, instead of going down a list clicking the most expensive ones.
As an example, 2ghz ram gets you no performance increase over 1600mhz ram, arguably not even over 1333mhz ram. x58 moved to triple channel, bandwidth is so ludicrously overspecified for a single socket system that ram frequency just doesn't matter. That's assuming you can get it to run at 2ghz at all, as fair few people can't.
If you're not using phase and it isn't free, you don't buy the 975. It will not run faster than the 920 on air, and it will not run faster than the 950 under water.
Your build idea is not a well informed one. As such I second the motion to buy a complete unit from ocuk, as you are evidently disinclined to research things yourself. Watercooling in particular is very unforgiving of ignorance, so I'd warn you off that until you're inclined to spend a long, long time researching it.
Best of luck, and here's hoping you're not yet another poorly informed and easily amused 14 year old.
These threads come round every month.
OP - Don't splash £4.5k on a system in the hope that it will last 2-3 years, spend £1.5k now and get a system that will do everything the one in your opening post will do, then in 6 months when the next graphics cards come out upgrade with the money you have left over.
Think how dated your £4.5k machine will be in just over a years time, always better to spend reasonably and upgrade as new stuff comes out, also if you sell the older parts off you can get some of the costs back.
OP - Don't splash £4.5k on a system in the hope that it will last 2-3 years, spend £1.5k now and get a system that will do everything the one in your opening post will do, then in 6 months when the next graphics cards come out upgrade with the money you have left over.
Think how dated your £4.5k machine will be in just over a years time, always better to spend reasonably and upgrade as new stuff comes out, also if you sell the older parts off you can get some of the costs back.
I'm with everyone here... 4.5k is a lot of money, far more than I believe anyone should ever spend on a computer.
New hardware is always coming out. You say you want this to last 3 years, but what happens if there's some revolution in 18 months that means we get a card twice as powerful as Fermi is meant to be, at a fraction of the price? I know it's unlikely, but thats how you should be looking at it.
Get a PC now that is only slightly overkill for what you need, and see what happens in future. Spend £1k on a PC now, save the other 3.5k for the future, when Microsoft bring out Windows 8...
New hardware is always coming out. You say you want this to last 3 years, but what happens if there's some revolution in 18 months that means we get a card twice as powerful as Fermi is meant to be, at a fraction of the price? I know it's unlikely, but thats how you should be looking at it.
Get a PC now that is only slightly overkill for what you need, and see what happens in future. Spend £1k on a PC now, save the other 3.5k for the future, when Microsoft bring out Windows 8...
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Slightly offtopic has any troll in the history of ocuk proved us wrong and buit their stupid £££ spec and posted pics anyone?