Spec a repair please

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Hi all, Once again I call on the collective as I am so far out the loop these days I don't know one end of a cpu from another. This board was bought for an htpc which was never built and ended up just being my pc.
Current spec
case- bog standard
dvd wrtiter - LG
PSU- Corsair TX650
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H
Radeon HD 4870 512mb
AMD Athlon X2 4050e
4GB DDR2 ram
windows 7 Pro 64bit

Well on return to pc one day it was dead, thinking well the only thing that has failed me before was a power supply, i did check it using a load and shorting the two pins on the 24pin connector and it spun up but I convinced myself it must be this.

Bought new supply and low and behold it still wont boot, by accident i pressed start and the fan on the cpu spun then noticed i had left out the 4pin cpu supply and as soon as i had put that back in then nothing on boot. A shop stuck in a spare cpu for me in case that had gone but it still would not boot so it looks like the motherboard has chucked it.

So although i would like to find a motherboard for the other parts because I don't like adding to the landfill I need a new motherboard,cpu and ram the only game i play is counter strike (yes i am that old) i might want to do a bit video editing of home movies (not that type). Budget is £150 or am I back in my duron days with this buget.

Also out of my rad HD4870 512mb and a rad HD 6770 1gb (which i bought for my sons pc but does not fit, bloody pcie versions) which is the better performing card as I assume bigger numbers don't always mean better or do they these days.

Thanks for taking the time to read this if you are still here and hopefully answering.

cheers.
 
Are your drives sata? I hope so as IDE isn't supported on modern mobos

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A8-5600K Black Edition 3.60GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD560KWOHJBOX) £79.99
1 x Gigabyte F2A85X-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £64.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9K) £41.99
Total : £186.97 (includes shipping : FREE).



That would do you nicely and is gaming capable without a GPU, obviously you can add one to improve gaming performance. You could drop to the A6 to get on budget but that's a dual core and you really will want a quad to help with video encoding

At 100 posts you qualify for free P&P so there is no rush, we are happy to talk things through ;)
 
 
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FX 4300? Really?

A8K vs FX4300

Keep in mind the A8K has a decent integrated GPU that can be hybrid Xfire'd with his 6770 to get better gaming grunt. The A10K has a better IGP but his gaming requirements arent high so I used the A8 to save cash. The K APUs are easier to overclock as they arent multiplier locked, you can up the FSB and raise/lower the multiplier which helps overclock the RAM. Snips massively overspent on RAM and the mobo budget suffered as a result
 
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honosuseri said:
Are your drives sata? I hope so as IDE isn't supported on modern mobos

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A8-5600K Black Edition 3.60GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD560KWOHJBOX) £79.99
1 x Gigabyte F2A85X-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £64.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9K) £41.99
Total : £186.97 (includes shipping : FREE).

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I would go with this and use your 6770 in Hybrid xfire, for better graphics.
 
honosuseri said:
FX 4300? Really?

A8K vs FX4300

Keep in mind the A8K has a decent integrated GPU that can be hybrid Xfire'd with his 6770 to get better gaming grunt. The A10K has a better IGP but his gaming requirements arent high so I used the A8 to save cash. The K APUs are easier to overclock as they arent multiplier locked, you can up the FSB and raise/lower the multiplier which helps overclock the RAM. Snips massively overspent on RAM and the mobo budget suffered as a result
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i just tried to keep as low as i could to the budget :(
 
zakblood said:
i just tried to keep as low as i could to the budget :(
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As did I ;)

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte F2A85X-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £64.99
1 x AMD A6-5400K Black Edition 3.60GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Dual Core Processor (AD540KOKHJBOX) £49.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9K) £41.99
Total : £156.97 (includes shipping : FREE).



As I said the A6K would bring it on budget but the A8K or even the A10K is worth the extra to get a quadcore, even if he has to flog off his spare PSU and GPU to help fund it :)
 
Thanks guys for all your input, my drives are sata and as well as 2 psu I have 2 cases so was really looking to end up with two systems, thats sort of why I picked £150 as I was going to buy 2 of what you suggested to make sure system for me and one for my son out if what I have. Does the Radeon HD4870 bring anything to this party or are one of the igpu CPU's better than this.
Sorry all I should
have explained it all in first post. Again my son only really plays counter strike on the PC, his gaming is on his Xbox
 
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Ahhh I'm with ya :)

The 4870 can't be Hybrid Xfired with the APUs IGP and it's not directX11 compatible but it's worth reusing as you have it. I would think the two machines would be on par with each other, one with the 4870 and the other with the 6770 xfired.

4870 vs 6670 The Athlon on the FM2 socket just has the IGP removed, the system that has the 6670/6770 will suffer if you lose the IGP
 
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i went with the cheapest configuration
The HD6770 is faster then any IGP
So there is no sens in getting IGP it if he has this video card
Besides the A10 5800k should be in crossfire with a HD6670
And it being 30 pounds more expensive then without IGP, do not forget you need better ram
You save 40pounds from ram and CPU
A A75 motherboard is ok for this setup so save 10pounds as well

Do not use the HD4870 you will pay the power bill for nothing
Make 2 systems one like this and one with integrated GPU the components are compatible between them
 
You are just going to confuse the OP Tres :(

The 6770 isn't very good although granted he doesn't need a lot of gaming grunt from the sound of things.

The IGPs in the A6,A8 and A10 are surprisingly capable. The A8 made the most sense for his budget and can Xfire with his 6770 GPU to get better performance, so the improved IGP in the A10 isnt strictly speaking needed.

There are cheaper mobos but I have deliberately used the gigabyte for the 3 year UK based warranty and it's Dual BIOS. It also has 4 DIMM slots for the RAM, the Asrock you suggested just has 2.


Thats the A6 using 1600mhz RAM. Faster RAM will improve the IGP performance. I've used 8GB of 1866Mhz RAM which can be overclocked and it's priced close to 1600mhz kits so is good value.

The 4870 wasn't a bad card in it's day, he can try the rig with and without it and decide himself if it's worth keeping.
 
The HD 4870 is inferior to the HD6770 and that is it, stop telling: not a bad card
The IGP is inferior to the HD6770 and that is real
If you combine a A8 IGP with the HD6770 you get the same performance with microstuttering and or loss in performance because of drivers
The A8 IGP has the same performance as a HD6650 so stop indicating crossfire please
A10 is ment to be in crossfire with a HD6670 do you get it?
You do not combine the performance
You ad 80% to the weakest card
 
tres_kun said:
The HD 4870 is inferior to the HD6770 and that is it, stop telling: not a bad card
The IGP is inferior to the HD6770 and that is real
If you combine a A8 IGP with the HD6770 you get the same performance with microstuttering and or loss in performance because of drivers
The A8 IGP has the same performance as a HD6650 so stop indicating crossfire please
A10 is ment to be in crossfire with a HD6670 do you get it?
You do not combine the performance
You ad 80% to the weakest card
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Tell you what fella, how about you just post two specs for the OP to buy, instead of rambling on it would save a lot of confusion ;)

He has a 6770 and a 4870. From what I understand you want him to get the FM2 Athlon (no IGP) and use the 6770 with it and then use the A8 or A10 with it's IGP in the other setup. If the 6770 can't be hybrid Xfired with the APUs that is my mistake, AMD give suggested pairings for discrete GPUs to use with the APUs but it's hard to find a complete compatibilty listing.

If it was my money I would buy the A8K or the A10K if the budget could stretch to it for both setups. I embedded a video so the OP can see the IGP performance of the weakest APU (A6) on "slow RAM". He can see it's surprisingly capable for gaming even when not setup "right". The IGP is the whole point of being on the FM2 socket for tight budget gaming. Making the APUs more desirable than the FM2 Athlons.

As he owns the 4870 there is no harm in him trying it in one of the systems is there? I already said it's old and isn't DirectX11 capable but Counterstrike is an ancient game itself.

Rather than get one Athlon FM2 system without the IGP, I would look at an intel setup to be paired with the 6770

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte B75M-D3V Intel B75 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £59.99
1 x Intel Pentium G840 2.80GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £55.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £35.99
Total : £151.97 (includes shipping : FREE).



Feel free to post specs of what you think is best. I urge the OP to continue the discussion and not buy until he qualifies for free P&P to help him get the most for his cash.
 
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_hd_6770_directcu_silent_review,13.html
If the hd 4890 is able to surpas the hd 6770 the hd4870 is the same or lower card and having a higher tdp waste of electricity

And because I am a noob and can not paste basket from pc or tablet I just paste links
If the pentium g 240 has better performance in videoediting compared to the atlon 2 then go for it
And I did post a link wih cpu and motherboard

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-334-AM&groupid=701&catid=1967&subcat=1946
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-098-AK&groupid=701&catid=1903&subcat=2399
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-021-TG&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517
140 pounds with postage or go for the better cpu another 10+ pounds
 
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Thanks for all your input, managed to squeeze my corsair power supply after bending some metal in his HP case and squeeze in the HD4870 so he seems happy at that just now. Going to go for the Gigabyte F2A85X-D3H AMD A85X as it has SPDIF which I use for my surround sound, yes i know something else i left out my required spec and maybe as I am now just getting something for me and hope to get some cash back by selling two old systems and a laptop I will treat myself and go for the AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz and maybe spalsh the cash on the ram. Thanks for all your input much appreciated.
 
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