Spec Check and Improvements! £2k budget

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Budget: <= £2k

Requirements: New high end rig for gaming and programming, something to keep me entertained for a while. Needs a monitor, big with ideally high resolution for dealing with multiple windows open while programming. While recording will be part of what I'm doing, I'm assuming that I'll be ok with an i5 on this one given the benchmarks and performance/price balance I've seen.


I've put something together based on current availability and the best tech as far as I can tell. Hopefully the fine folk of GH will be able to point me in the right direction if I've made any massive mistakes or if people want to suggest improvements.
I intend to be at least overclocking the i5.


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Concerns:

1. It's a bit close to budget, so there's not a lot of wiggle room in the upwards direction.

2. The Crossfire 6950s seem to be the most cost efficient way to drive the high resolution monitor, but in all honestly I'd like to find an equivalent-strength NVidia solution at the same price point (which as far as I can tell doesnt exist). While I've enjoyed exploring OpenCL a bit with my 4670, I'd like to explore CUDA as well. However if there's nothing thast fits the budget I'm happy to stick to the ATi solution.

3. HDCP - I've yet to actually encounter this little technology in my own personal experience, but I am interested in playing Blu-rays. I'm assuming from what I understand that I'll be alright with all of this kit (player, graphics card(s) and monitor)?

4. Noise - I'd like it to not be too loud when running, and short of doing a custom loop watercooling project on the whole rig, I'm hoping the 6950s won't be too loud. Again this is something to be taken into consideration I suppose..

5. PCI-E Lanes - I know there's a limitation on this socket for intel platforms with x8 on each graphics card in crossfire. Does this then include any other PCI-E lanes as well? (i.e. if I have 2 graphics cards and a pci-e sound card for example, does that further constrain the number of lanes available to each device?)

6. The SSD - I've read a lot on these forums about SSDs being something a bit special, so I'm happy to take your word and use one for Windows install etc. I'd like to get a bit of advice on that selection, I'm hoping it's a pretty reasonable one.



There's a fair few different questions in here, but I'd rather not spam threads all over the boards :D

Any and all advice is much appreciated :)

Cheers!
 
A few suggestions to save money,


A cheaper GOLD rated modular PSU - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-010-LA&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=2057
Its a brand of Enermax so you know the quality is high.


Kingston 8GB RAM kit - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-094-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517
Its still dark in colour to fit in with the "look" your trying to achieve, also 1600MHZ RAm is all you need as memory speed and timings make little difference to Sandybridge performance.


A cheaper 2TB HDD - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-097-SA&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1955 or http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-374-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1955
You will be using the speed of the SSD to run Windows/apps, so the slower spindle speed of these drives wont be a concern for just a general purpose storage drive.

2. The Crossfire 6950s seem to be the most cost efficient way to drive the high resolution monitor, but in all honestly I'd like to find an equivalent-strength NVidia solution at the same price point (which as far as I can tell doesnt exist). While I've enjoyed exploring OpenCL a bit with my 4670, I'd like to explore CUDA as well. However if there's nothing thast fits the budget I'm happy to stick to the ATi solution.

Only SLI GTX570 at £280-300 is equal/better than those.

3. HDCP - I've yet to actually encounter this little technology in my own personal experience, but I am interested in playing Blu-rays. I'm assuming from what I understand that I'll be alright with all of this kit (player, graphics card(s) and monitor)?

Yep, do you have a Blu-ray playing software? if not get a retail Blu-ray drive which usually include a copy of PowerDVD

4. Noise - I'd like it to not be too loud when running, and short of doing a custom loop watercooling project on the whole rig, I'm hoping the 6950s won't be too loud. Again this is something to be taken into consideration I suppose..

Shouldnt be loud really.

5. PCI-E Lanes - I know there's a limitation on this socket for intel platforms with x8 on each graphics card in crossfire. Does this then include any other PCI-E lanes as well? (i.e. if I have 2 graphics cards and a pci-e sound card for example, does that further constrain the number of lanes available to each device?)

Nope, its 8X/8X no matter how many cards you fit in, that board has an extra PLEX chip to add more lanes.

6. The SSD - I've read a lot on these forums about SSDs being something a bit special, so I'm happy to take your word and use one for Windows install etc. I'd like to get a bit of advice on that selection, I'm hoping it's a pretty reasonable one.

Its good, or a Crucial M4.



One other suggestion is the long in the tooth H50 when there are H60 or Antec 620 avalible.
 
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Hey stulid, cheers for the quick response :)

A few suggestions to save money,

A cheaper GOLD rated modular PSU - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-010-LA&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=2057
Its a brand of Enermax so you know the quality is high.

Kingston 8GB RAM kit - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-094-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517
Its still dark in colour to fit in with the "look" your trying to achieve, also 1600MHZ RAm is all you need as memory speed and timings make little difference to Sandybridge performance.

A cheaper 2TB HDD - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-097-SA&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1955 or http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-374-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1955
You will be using the speed of the SSD to run Windows/apps, so the slower spindle speed of these drives wont be a concern for just a general purpose storage drive.

Ok, taken those into account. Wasnt entirely sure whether it was wise to abandon the higher speed RAM, but it certainly saves a few quid :). Had a quick look at the brand on that PSU. Seems it's just precisely a rebranded Enermax? :confused:
If so then that sounds perfect as you say.

Only SLI GTX570 at £280-300 is equal/better than those.

Ok, not sure I can stretch the budget that far. 6950s it is! :)

Yep, do you have a Blu-ray playing software? if not get a retail Blu-ray drive which usually include a copy of PowerDVD

Excellent point. Switched up to the slightly more expensive samsung retail blu-ray player, which comes with powerdvd. With standard DVD playback coming as standard in windows nowadays I didnt think to consider that. :(

Shouldnt be loud really.

Nope, its 8X/8X no matter how many cards you fit in, that board has an extra PLEX chip to add more lanes.

Awesome, thanks for clarifying.

Its good, or a Crucial M4.

Ok, looking forward to seeing the difference now :D

One other suggestion is the long in the tooth H50 when there are H60 or Antec 620 avalible.

Yea it was more down to the reviews. I've switched out to the Antec 620 on the basis of the reviews on the H60.

These suggestions bring me down to just under 2 grand. Happy days :)
 
Get either a Silverstone FT02/HAF-X/Raven RV02 over the Antec 1200 to be honest as they are a lot better overall.

I personally do not like that cooler since some air coolers for around same price/cheaper are better like the Thermalright Silver Arrow.If you want to go for a liquid cooler get the Antec Kuhler 920 for sure.(620 is ok too)

I think the 6950s might be a bit loud on load as i had a 6970 which was whereas my 580 is a lot quieter on load although those are custom cooler 6950s so might be fine.

This case is one of the best performing around: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-073-SV&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=1092

Should be quiet too as it has the penetrator fans from what i read which work great inside it.
 
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Get either a Silverstone FT02/HAF-X/Raven RV02 over the Antec 1200 to be honest as they are a lot better overall.

I personally do not like that cooler since some air coolers for around same price/cheaper are better like the Thermalright Silver Arrow.If you want to go for a liquid cooler get the Antec Kuhler 920 for sure.(620 is ok too)

I think the 6950s might be a bit loud on load as i had a 6970 which was whereas my 580 is a lot quieter on load although those are custom cooler 6950s so might be fine.

This case is one of the best performing around: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-073-SV&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=1092

Should be quiet too as it has the penetrator fans from what i read which work great inside it.

Yea I think I'm pretty much set on the 6950s at this point as they hit the exact price/performance point I'm looking for with little in the way of competitive alternatives. Switched to the Antec 620 cooler as well, would consider the 920 if sold by OC but I'd like to get it all in one order. :)

Will have a closer look at those cases there. I think I could get away with a black and white colour scheme from the other components, rather than black and blue. While I like the spec on that Raven, need to get my head around the idea of having a white case! :eek: I see there's a black version but doesnt quite look as good somehow..

Cheers for the input :)


Looking to order tomorrow, so any more advice is very much appreciated :D


Thats all it is.

Awesome ;) (although it begs the question of why :confused:)
 
Awesome ;) (although it begs the question of why :confused:)

No idea. Must just be a business decision to sell more PSU's by rebranding certain existing models and adding a few cheap models to make a new range.

But you will notice the Lepa G series is just the same as the Enermax modu87+, and the B series is just like the Enermax NAXN range.
 
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Ordered! Went for the HAF-X case in the end because I couldnt quite bring myself to buy in white. Now I just have to build the thing, but pics will be posted :D

No idea. Must just be a business decision to sell more PSU's by rebranding certain existing models and adding a few cheap models to make a new range.

But you will notice the Lepa G series is just the same as the Enermax modu87+, and the B series is just like the Enermax NAXN range.

Yea, will have to remember that in future, probably wouldnt have even looked at them otherwise :(
 
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