Spec me a 1st gen threadripper machine

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I've got a friend who asked me to build her a PC for Articad design. https://www.articad.com/products/articad-pro/

It's CPU/core intensive so more cores the better, hence me thinking a 1st gen threadripper would be a good solution for her. (Minimum 8 core 16 thread needed so even 2700 AM4)

16 gig of RAM minimum - compatible with TR, probably 32 gig would be better

Motherboard

Power supply

Case (that fits TR4 setup)

NVME drive for windows and articad software

Storage drive for renders

CPU cooler - hassle free as she's not that teach savy with hardware

Basic GPU that can power 2 monitors. GPU will NOT be needed for gaming, just to power 2 monitors. Outputs needed are HDMI for one monitor and she's not sure wohat the other monitr is so have to consider it's either also HDMI or DVI. Need a GPU with multi output option then to cover the second monitor, whatever socket it may use to connect to the card

Is a 1st gen TR4 with the above doable for £1000?
 
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hit an issue ...

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,036.46 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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is she able to hold out till July for 12 core AM4 ? I dont think it'll be as cheap as everyone else is making out, but should lay cheaper then Treadripper just about and equal, less then 9900k - if a 16 core is released at launch then might site lower , £400 mark .

x570 boards should lay between £120 and £280 from entry to Mainstream flagship ( think z390 Master and not z390 Xtreme)

cooling needs should be lower as well

will do some digging if i9 9900k clocked at 4.8ghz will beat ryzen 2700x/ 12 thread ripper now. As you mentioned it is a CPU based for rendering ( lot of kitchen places use it)

bit of digging , as you've mentioned in your post

Rendering speeds in ArtiCAD are governed by number of cores more than processor speed, so the more the better. The Ryzen 2700 will give you very good bang for your proverbial buck. Depending on your budget, AMD's Threadripper 2 is launching q3 this year, with 32 cores. Pricing has not been released as yet, but should be soon
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She needs the PC ASAP.

What I've got so far

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £719.56 (includes shipping: £14.70)
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and


  • AMD YD192XA8AEWOF 12 Core/24 Threads Ryzen Threadripper 1920X Processor £363.59
  • ASRock X399 Phantom Gaming 6 TR4, X399 Phantom Gaming 6 £218.39
from elsewhere

so roughly £1300 all in thus far




Need a graphics card to power 2 monitors, one is definitely HDMI, she's not sure what the other is so I've given her an option of a GPU with
1× DisplayPort 1.3/1.4 ready
1× HDMI 2.0
1× DVI-D (Dual-Link)

It's going to be transported so air cooling is out of the question, hence the AIO cooler.

What's the thoughts? Is that RAM a good call for TR4? Where could I "cut corners" to bring the build down a bit cost wise? Any decent cases or PSU's that would work for me that are cheaper? Even a GPU cost reduction would be good but I need the GPU to power 2 monitors so needs to have decent grunt and outputs
 
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save some cash

with the eisbaer, order else where Silent Loop/Eisbaer TR4 bracket £5-7

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £190.44 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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or Dark Rock Pro 4 which will handle the heat and less chance of failing and quieter - can add 3rd fan to back if needs be

the corsair kit i listed is cheaper - Just get 2 of them £83 x 2 = £166 - £34 saving !

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...hannel-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2d30-my-4bu-cs.html

push the Aorus Pro is you can 8 phase 50amp - 400amp total vs 6+2 of the ASRock. £250 price range

also stand longer with Thread Ripper 4th gen CPUs in 2020, if she ever upgrades in few years time etc

you'll also have Gigabyte RMA- if its for business- down time is key and being able to go direct can help, specially when its all UK bound- thread about ASRock asking someone to put £20 in the packaging to pay for TAX!

**sorry didn't see the- it'll be moving around. P600 is a heavy case!


https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...tower-case-black-cc-9011164-ww-ca-24e-cs.html
 
TR is pretty poor value currently.

You'd be better with an 8 core Ryzen 2700 overclocked unless you really need the PCI-E lanes. It'll be half the price of a TR system, better choice of coolers, don't need 4 sticks of RAM and it'll turn in performance close to 12 core TR in multithreaded workloads bad be faster at single threaded work.

Buy a decent mobo and drop in Zen 2 later this year if more CPU performance is needed.
 
Minstadave said:
TR is pretty poor value currently.

You'd be better with an 8 core Ryzen 2700 overclocked unless you really need the PCI-E lanes. It'll be half the price of a TR system, better choice of coolers, don't need 4 sticks of RAM and it'll turn in performance close to 12 core TR in multithreaded workloads bad be faster at single threaded work.

Buy a decent mobo and drop in Zen 2 later this year if more CPU performance is needed.
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Articad is very core dependent. With the design work, time is money so rendering faster is the ideal option here. It'll all be ran at stock speeds as she's not tech savy to sort hardware out, if an overclock fails.
 
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subbytna said:
Articad is very core dependent. With the design work, time is money so rendering faster is the ideal option here. It'll all be ran at stock speeds as she's not tech savy to sort hardware out, if an overclock fails.
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I'd swap to the 2700X then, and add a Gen 2 Ryzen down the line. It'll be worth the hassle over a 1920X.
 
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I'd swap to the 2700X then, and add a Gen 2 Ryzen down the line. It'll be worth the hassle over a 1920X.
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I get what you mean but the PC isn't for me. It's for a friend I'm helping out by building her a PC for her design business. She is good with software but not the hardware side of things. Slotting in a new gen TR is easy for me, no so much for her though.
 
subbytna said:
I get what you mean but the PC isn't for me. It's for a friend I'm helping out by building her a PC for her design business. She is good with software but not the hardware side of things. Slotting in a new gen TR is easy for me, no so much for her though.
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mmm least with 12 core, might be able to render dual projects on the go :)
 
I use to use a i7 6700hq for Articad, Arcon Evo, autocad civils 3d renders and agisoft photogrammetry processing locally these all use cpu over gpu (i dont know why) but i recently went to a ryzen 2700 in a laptop and its leaps and bounds ahead although saying that the best benefit i find is having over 32gb of ram which really does drop the processing time.

get a cheaper ryzen 7 and max out the ram instead.

I really wouldnt bother going above a 2700x with the stock cooler which will be fine, i would also consider just using onboard graphics for this as well as they are fine if your not gaming or the software is unable to use hardware acceleration. That will save you loads of cash...

Im not sure how many display ports onboard graphics have so you could always look to a display link dock or similar, which i find quite useful for running 4 screens off my laptop via either a usb or display port cable.
 
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Electroshadow said:
I use to use a i7 6700hq for Articad, Arcon Evo, autocad civils 3d renders and agisoft photogrammetry processing locally these all use cpu over gpu (i dont know why) but i recently went to a ryzen 2700 in a laptop and its leaps and bounds ahead although saying that the best benefit i find is having over 32gb of ram which really does drop the processing time.

get a cheaper ryzen 7 and max out the ram instead.

I really wouldnt bother going above a 2700x with the stock cooler which will be fine, i would also consider just using onboard graphics for this as well as they are fine if your not gaming or the software is unable to use hardware acceleration. That will save you loads of cash...

Im not sure how many display ports onboard graphics have so you could always look to a display link dock or similar, which i find quite useful for running 4 screens off my laptop via either a usb or display port cable.
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I wasn't aware a ryzen 2700X had onboard graphics?​
 
Minstadave said:
Posting black text makes it almost impossible to read your posts on the dark theme btw.
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He might be using the 'old school' classic blue forum - i think it's the default unless you change.

I highlight the text if it's a dark colour otherwise i can't see it at all.
 
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