Spec me a 3D/rendering (and light gaming) upgrade

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Hi everyone,

Been a very long time and I’m long overdue and upgrade. Currently running a 6600k, 16gb and a 1050ti.

I mainly use my computer for design these days, mostly 3D and rendering so pretty cpu and memory heavy. But I’d like the option to get back into some games too.

Going to do it in two stages, so first off is like a new cpu, mobo and memory, looking to spend around the £500 mark.

Then I will get a new graphics card a bit later.... I have no idea about graphics card so what’d you recommend?

And if it could be an ITX board and not a huge graphics card that’d be great.

Also, is this a good time to upgrade or are there loads of new stuff coming out soon?
 
Perhaps. Would that be compatible with current mobos? Could get a cheaper stop gap cpu if zen 3 is going to make a big difference
 
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Perhaps. Would that be compatible with current mobos? Could get a cheaper stop gap cpu if zen 3 is going to make a big difference
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Zen 3 is AMD

Zen 3 will be compatable with the motherboard x450, b520,b550, and x570 chipset.

No one knows how zen 3 will perform.


Amd upgrade option.
3700x £300 or 3600 £200
32gb 3200mhz teamgroup ram £100
MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC (SOCKET AM4) MINI-ITX MOTHERBOARD £110.

3700x 8 core 16 threads cpu
3600 6 core 12 threads cpu.
 
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-Exodus- said:
Hi everyone,

Been a very long time and I’m long overdue and upgrade. Currently running a 6600k, 16gb and a 1050ti.

I mainly use my computer for design these days, mostly 3D and rendering so pretty cpu and memory heavy. But I’d like the option to get back into some games too.

Going to do it in two stages, so first off is like a new cpu, mobo and memory, looking to spend around the £500 mark.

Then I will get a new graphics card a bit later.... I have no idea about graphics card so what’d you recommend?

And if it could be an ITX board and not a huge graphics card that’d be great.

Also, is this a good time to upgrade or are there loads of new stuff coming out soon?
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First off , what 3D programs are you using ?

Secondly go B550 ITX as VRMs are a Lot better then x570 and b450 boards when rendering !!! Specially if your leaving for hours on end and in a small form factor !
Heck even A520 ITX beats B450 boards :)

If you need CPU now, just grab it and upgrade later when you need it . You'll spend twice as much in a stop gap waiting etc

You can push 3700 cheaper

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £498.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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B550 , would come in around £550 mark but designed to handle over 16 cores overclocked

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £573.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)


Both those boards can run 4000hz plus ram which if your serious about Zen 3 , you'd get etc . But drives up costs

Intel , but would need a good £40 odd cooler for it

b]My basket at Overclockers UK:[/b]
Total: £507.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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orbitalwalsh said:
First off , what 3D programs are you using ?

Secondly go B550 ITX as VRMs are a Lot better then x570 and b450 boards when rendering !!! Specially if your leaving for hours on end and in a small form factor !
Heck even A520 ITX beats B450 boards :)

If you need CPU now, just grab it and upgrade later when you need it . You'll spend twice as much in a stop gap waiting etc

You can push 3700 cheaper

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £498.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)​

B550 , would come in around £550 mark but designed to handle over 16 cores overclocked

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £573.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)

Both those boards can run 4000hz plus ram which if your serious about Zen 3 , you'd get etc . But drives up costs

Intel , but would need a good £40 odd cooler for it

b]My basket at Overclockers UK:[/b]
Total: £507.47 (includes shipping: £10​
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Amazing, thanks!

As far as software goes mainly SolidWorks, Rhino and KeyShot. Yea there's a good chance I'll be leaving it rendering over night.

Will both those boards accept zen 3 when it comes out? Might as well make sure it's a little future proof.

No one seems to suggest intel very much these days, are the ryzen chips just much better?

As far as cooling goes I have an old Corsair H80i, it's probably not compatible with the new sockets. I've really enjoyed the silence of water-cooling, what's the best 120mm AIO units these days?
 
-Exodus- said:
Amazing, thanks!

As far as software goes mainly SolidWorks, Rhino and KeyShot. Yea there's a good chance I'll be leaving it rendering over night.

Will both those boards accept zen 3 when it comes out? Might as well make sure it's a little future proof.

No one seems to suggest intel very much these days, are the ryzen chips just much better?

As far as cooling goes I have an old Corsair H80i, it's probably not compatible with the new sockets. I've really enjoyed the silence of water-cooling, what's the best 120mm AIO units these days?
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intel has been DOA for a while specially since ryzen 2*** series. they have finally caught up with 10th gen in being that alll cores now have Hyperthreading, pricing is a lot better ! currently 10850k matching or cheaper then 3900x 12 cores with faster cores and can use cheaper 3000hz ram etc.

so programs also favour intel, specially new flight sim being DX11 and only using 8 threads via 4 cores. Adobe Prem finally updated to give AMD a slight advantage BUT both current Intel and AMD will be surpassed by Zen3/Intel 11th gen. can see via intel new laptop chips that they have dropped down to 6 cores instead of 8 but the performance uplift is biig, even when its using older built node.

easier to use solid Air cooler instead of 120 AIO. ryzen 3700 doesnt run hot too!

oonly problem is intel board and chip i listed doesn't overcloock! but core speeds still out gun AMD even when OC. Zen3 will work fine with B550 and A520 that can accept higher ram speeds then B450 due to being the latest chipsets

shame this article is quiite old... fiirst gen threadripper and 7th intel =/

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...-14-16-and-18-core-Skylake-X-Processors-1044/

SOLIDWORKS

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...SP1-Intel-Core-10th-Gen-CPU-Performance-1816/

Article is about 9th gen intel and not current 10th BUT LISTS RYZEN RAM speed details!!

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...9-SP3-AMD-Ryzen-3-vs-Intel-9th-Gen-Core-1555/

GPU

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/SOLIDWORKS-2020-SP1-GPU-Performance-1682/

now RTX 3000 cards shacks things up but RTX 3080 with 10GB ram could be sweet ...

Giigabytes H470I ITX mobo- heavy hitter - but very expensive. in line with B550 pricing !

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/H470I-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-10#kf

Rhino is CPU render only and uses multiple cores for that. when your working on it, not so much so core speed.
 
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orbitalwalsh said:
B550 , would come in around £550 mark but designed to handle over 16 cores overclocked

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £573.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​
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So think I’m going to go for this unless anyone has any other suggestions.

Also I’ve seen an 3800x for about £275, is it worth going for? I notice it has a much higher voltage, I assume it would run a lot hotter, maybe not worth it for an ITX build?
 
-Exodus- said:
So think I’m going to go for this unless anyone has any other suggestions.

Also I’ve seen an 3800x for about £275, is it worth going for? I notice it has a much higher voltage, I assume it would run a lot hotter, maybe not worth it for an ITX build?
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Had a higher auto boost. Of your not manually overclocking and can get for same price of 3700x or cheaper then do it !. Think cooler is better as well !
 
orbitalwalsh said:
Think cooler is better as well !
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Think it's the same noisy, Wraith Prism (i've had to use one for while - although adequate, it's noisy).

-Exodus- said:
Also I’ve seen an 3800x for about £275, is it worth going for? I notice it has a much higher voltage, I assume it would run a lot hotter, maybe not worth it for an ITX build?
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If you can get a 3800X cheap then may as well (price bump not worth it otherwise) - but if you can get 3700X even cheaper i would pick the 3700X and put the savings to a semi-decent after market cooler for your ITX build - if you're not a headphone user. The Wraith is even noisy for desktop work (Note: I am fussy when it comes to system noise).

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AI've really enjoyed the silence of water-cooling, what's the best 120mm AIO units these days?
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Just noticed this - get which ever CPU is cheapest - as a decent after market cooler will do the job on either.
 
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