Spec me an All in one Unit - Never water cooled before

DannyW

DannyW

DannyW

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Hi guys I am looking to water cool my new PC and maybe overclock it slightly

This case is small but enough room for a single fan unit. Pic Below

I was thinking something like this - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/antec-h600-pro-kuhler-120mm-aio-liquid-cooler-hs-013-an.html

I would like it as quiet as possible that is the aim here


You can see at the minute my case pulls in air from the front and supplies the CPU cooler and Video card. If I remove that fan at the front - Think its a 140mm - Will I in doing so significantly increase motherboard and GPU temps?




Any advise greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
Although I have not used that one ( I have only used the Silverstone AIO Coolers )..I have found those type of tubes to be a bit on the stiff side...so I tend to go for smooth tubes on an AIO cooler .
 
Well I tend to either place the cooler at the top / front of the case if the case allows, other than that I would bung it on the back above the video card :)

Also I went for the silverstone as it has no software that I had to muck about with , so i just set the fan speed via the BOIS ( making a note of where the fans were connected on the Mobo ) , as goes the pump speed I just left it as it came out of the box .
 
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DannyW, why not get a bigger air cooler? They cost less, run quieter, last way longer, and the only moving part is the fan, which if it fails system will still run at low load or with whatever fan you have handy. With a CLC it's the pump that fails, and when that happeings (or system leaks) you have no cooling at all until you replace the whole CPU cooling system. Not quick and not cheap.

Your Z270M-ITX/AC has all kinds of room toward PCIe sockets and like 50 toward RAM and your Nano S has 160mm CPU clearance. I don't know what your RAM height is, but if you will tell me we can find you a good air cooler that will be at least as good as a 240mm clc and quieter too .. all for same or less money.
 
Hi I have actually just fitted my liquid cooler
With Everything on silent in the bios it is actually silent and I can put my pc back on the deck
On prime95 the extreme heat temps are 11c cooler
Couldn't be happier. I will post some pictures soon


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DannyW, why not get a bigger air cooler? They cost less, run quieter, last way longer, and the only moving part is the fan, which if it fails system will still run at low load or with whatever fan you have handy. With a CLC it's the pump that fails, and when that happeings (or system leaks) you have no cooling at all until you replace the whole CPU cooling system. Not quick and not cheap.

Your Z270M-ITX/AC has all kinds of room toward PCIe sockets and like 50 toward RAM and your Nano S has 160mm CPU clearance. I don't know what your RAM height is, but if you will tell me we can find you a good air cooler that will be at least as good as a 240mm clc and quieter too .. all for same or less money.
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Glad it worked out. Hope it keeps working. ;)

Getting 11c better temps then you had with one of the smallest coolers on the market really isn't saying much. A tower cooler would have done the same. I've often found those little pancake coolers to run 5-8c cooler just by turning the fan over so it pulls air out instead of pushing air in .. even when open bench testing them. ;)
 
Hi yeh I know 11c is nothing to getting excited about but it is silent and because I am tight I got the cheapo Cooler Master Seidon 240V Liquid CPU Cooler so for £60 I am really happy

Plenty of mixed reviews - Them n00bs who say its super noisy are correct if you connect it directly to a 12v molex, or have your bios cpu fan set to max. On silent, it is silent
 
Hi yeh I know 11c is nothing to getting excited about but it is silent and because I am tight I got the cheapo Cooler Master Seidon 240V Liquid CPU Cooler so for £60 I am really happy. PC now back on desk where it belongs

Plenty of mixed reviews - Them n00bs who say its super noisy are correct if you connect it directly to a 12v molex, or have your bios cpu fan set to max. On silent, it is silent

Also just realised I posted in the wrong area too





 
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I assume you realize you are pre-heated the airflow to your GPU with the radiator in front as an intake.

£60 will buy a very good air cooler too.
On the expensive side is the NH-D14 is £64.99
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/noctua-nh-d14-dual-radiator-cpu-cooler-hs-011-nc.html
On the lower side is the likes of Scythe Fuma which OcUK don't have but can be had on the river for about 45 quid.
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Hi yeh theoretically it will blow hot air onto GPU, on extreme benching with Furmark this made negligible difference in a 30 minute test. Around 70c before and after fitting the cooler with GPU fans at 55%.

Just spent 30 mins on BF1 GPU is at 57c

Also that cooler in your link is on the limit for my case, it may or may not fit. But more then likely would interfere with other motherboard components with my board being M-ITX

Regards
 
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DannyW said:
Hi yeh theoretically it will blow hot air onto GPU, on extreme benching with Furmark this made negligible difference in a 30 minute test. Around 70c before and after fitting the cooler with GPU fans at 55%.

Just spent 30 mins on BF1 GPU is at 57c

Also that cooler in your link is on the limit for my case, it may or may not fit. But more then likely would interfere with other motherboard components with my board being M-ITX

Regards
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Indeed the D14 is 160mm and FD spec 160 for your case. I have built a fair few Fractal Design cased systems and found their CPU clearance to always be a few mm more than they spec. ;) Like I said before, the only thing I don't know if the D14 would clear is your RAM, and as long as your RAM is less than 48mm above surface of motherboard D14 and front 120mm fan will fit.

But you already have your CLC, so seem a moot discussion.
 
doyll said:
I assume you realize you are pre-heated the airflow to your GPU with the radiator in front as an intake.

£60 will buy a very good air cooler too.
On the expensive side is the NH-D14 is £64.99
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/noctua-nh-d14-dual-radiator-cpu-cooler-hs-011-nc.html
On the lower side is the likes of Scythe Fuma which OcUK don't have but can be had on the river for about 45 quid.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAMxZgvves

Check out this vid on radiator placement by Kyle at Bitwit, the front intake placement might actually be a better idea in the OP's build as he has an open air GPU cooler, which would dump heat into the case then on to the rad.

The whole CPU rad as intake pre-heating the air is a little overblown, especially when you consider that a mainstream Intel CPU puts out a lot less heat than any enthusiast GPU.
 
chongker said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAMxZgvves

Check out this vid on radiator placement by Kyle at Bitwit, the front intake placement might actually be a better idea in the OP's build as he has an open air GPU cooler, which would dump heat into the case then on to the rad.

The whole CPU rad as intake pre-heating the air is a little overblown, especially when you consider that a mainstream Intel CPU puts out a lot less heat than any enthusiast GPU.
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Thanks I am subscribed to that guy on YouTube and Linus, learnt so much
 
chongker said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAMxZgvves

Check out this vid on radiator placement by Kyle at Bitwit, the front intake placement might actually be a better idea in the OP's build as he has an open air GPU cooler, which would dump heat into the case then on to the rad.

The whole CPU rad as intake pre-heating the air is a little overblown, especially when you consider that a mainstream Intel CPU puts out a lot less heat than any enthusiast GPU.
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Sorry, but that is illogical. The key is to supply cool air to both GPU and CPU. GPUs are generally at last twice the heat / wattage of CPUs, so logic says GPU need more and cooler air than CPU does. But I subscribe to supplying both with the coolest air possible. That means supplying both with air as close to room ambient as possible.

While air coolers have a near 1:1 cooler intake to component temperature change ratio, radiators do not. radiators are 3+:1 or more radiator intake to component ratio .. at least with real water cooling. Not sure what CLC ratio is.

I run an i7 980X (130w TDP stock) @ 4.4GHz below 65c and a KFA2 GeForce GTX 770 LTD OC (230w) below 70c both on air with 2x 140mm front and 1x 140mm bottom intakes in a 22c room, it would seem logical it can be done with a 240mm CLC on the CPU with radaitor in top as exhaust with all front intakes and a bottom intake.
 
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Hey Danny, I remember your spec thread when you were about to buy the PC, looking good! Hope you're pleased with it.

I would probably have gone for a big air cooler too but so long as you're happy with the Seidon then thats all that matters :)
 
Daaaveee said:
Hey Danny, I remember your spec thread when you were about to buy the PC, looking good! Hope you're pleased with it.

I would probably have gone for a big air cooler too but so long as you're happy with the Seidon then thats all that matters :)
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Hi mate Yeh I understand some big air units of similar money would probably out perform it, but space and room were an issue

Also I am not sure if it would have been this silent? I have to get within 20cm of the case to hear it. The old 7200 rpm spinner I have makes more noise now

And of course if I changed the fan speeds to Performance in the bios it would certainty be better then 11c decrease
 
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