Spec Me An AMD/Nvidia Full ATX Build Air Cooled

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Need a full atx air cooled build with amd cpu and nvidia gpu and good vrm's, don't want to overclock I just need rock solid stability and a decent psu mem and gpu with 1TB boot & 2TB NVMe games drive version 4.0 minimum. Buget is around £1,500 or thereabouts. Games that are of interest are Final Fantasy 14 upwards. If that means Intel, so be it. I have Windows 10 Pro so should be ok there.

Many thanks.

 

[mickyflinn]

7800x3d could up to 9800x3d build with 4070 super , £100 left to make changes.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £428.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £89.99
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 A-RGB 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02418) = £29.98
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £92.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03573) = £124.99
• 1 x WD Black SN770 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58F-WD) = £53.00
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £82.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge 12Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01499) = £499.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00

Total: £1,402.92 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Ad_Augendae]

Solid choice thanks, what case would be best for this build airflow wise, it's going to be stuffed under a desk with plenty of airflow back to front.

 

[mickyflinn]

Solid choice thanks, what case would be best for this build airflow wise, it's going to be stuffed under a desk with plenty of airflow back to front.

My bad I added the below case or so I thought , apologies.

MSI MAG FORGE 112R Mid Tower Gaming Case - Black

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Comes with 6 fans but a bit wider.

Antec CX800 Elite RGB Mid Tower - Black

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Best to pick what you like

 

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Thanks I'm just watching this as we speak, I just need air movement not flex and lights.

 

[mickyflinn]

Thanks I'm just watching this as we speak, I just need air movement not flex and lights.

So use to speccing RGB builds but the antec are great value with 6 fans .

The nzxt flow case is good then and some arctic p12s , the p12 pst can link together.

NZXT H6 Flow Mid-Tower Case - Black

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Arctic P12 PWM PST Black Fan - 120mm

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CPU cooler non RGB

Arctic Freezer 36 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm

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Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE Black CPU Air Cooler

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Thats a nice case but I only have 245mm width to play with.

Key Specs
Motherboard Support	ATX, Micro-ATX, Mini-ITX
Enclosure Type	Mid-Tower
Case Material	SGCC Steel, Ultra-Clear Tempered Glass, Dark Tinted Tempered Glass (Black SKU only)
Dimensions	Height (with feet) 435 mm / 17.13 in Width 287 mm / 11.3 in Depth 415 mm / 16.34 in Weight 9.4 kg

 

[mickyflinn]

Thats a nice case but I only have 245mm width to play with.

Key Specs
Motherboard Support	ATX, Micro-ATX, Mini-ITX
Enclosure Type	Mid-Tower
Case Material	SGCC Steel, Ultra-Clear Tempered Glass, Dark Tinted Tempered Glass (Black SKU only)
Dimensions	Height (with feet) 435 mm / 17.13 in Width 287 mm / 11.3 in Depth 415 mm / 16.34 in Weight 9.4 kg

Lian Li Lancool II Mesh C performance Midi-Tower Case - Black

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[Ad_Augendae]

Yeah It's either that or the MSI, seeing the reviews the Lian Li seems as good a choice to suit the Width being taller.

Many thanks mickyflinn will consider the options, thank you so much for your input.

 

[Craig_d1]

different approach, as Final Fantasy is single player game, guessing visuals are more important than outright frames, so go 7600 cpu with a higher gpu..4080 out of budget (would be my preferred) but can have a 4070ti super in there...not sure what resolution you play at
lian li 216 excellent airflow case..just gone non rgb throught.. has 2 x 160mm fans in front so more airflow for less rpm, so quieter

7600 still and excellent cpu for gaming. below shows 7600.4070ti combo vs a 4070/7800x3d combo..so just see types of games. competetive shooters where you play at 1080 and want higherst frames, it's the 7800x3d..that's when cpu getting maxed...higher res, high graphics settings, it switches to gpu, as that's the bottleneck and cpu doesn't work so hard

can go for peerless assasin air cooler too. £30 with twin tower cooling stacks..if you upgrade your cpu down the line and want to have slightly more cooling capacity..but freezer 36 ecxcellent too

Faster GPU or Faster CPU: Ryzen 7600 + RTX 4070 Ti vs. Ryzen 7800X3D + RTX 4070

Usually we recommend PC gamers on a budget to adopt the min/max strategy. This means spending as little as possible on almost everything, except the GPU, where...

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My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Lian Li Lancool 216 Mid-tower PC case - Black (SKU: CA-7BG-LL) = £89.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K0-AS) = £155.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £179.98
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB EXPO (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02786) = £89.99
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02420) = £22.99
• 1 x Team Group G50 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-TMG-03131) = £47.99
• 1 x Team Group G50 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-TMG-03132) = £87.95
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £89.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Solid 16GB Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-03194) = £698.99

Total: £1,463.86 (includes delivery: £0.00)
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Thanks for your input Craig_d1 another solid choice, I'm still looking at cases. The lian Li's appear to have a vent for the psu at the side, the 207 is slightly slimmer with the psu mounted up front. 1440p mostly Windowed Mode. Moving from gen1 ryzen with 1080 so either of those choices would be great.

 

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Which extra 2TB drive would you buy for the following.

OcUK Gaming Mach 3 - Ryzen 5700X3D, RTX 4070 Super Pre-Built Gaming PC

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As far as I can see it allows for 1x gen 4 and 1x gen 3, also are Overclockers ok with chucking your own extra drive into a pre-built.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B550M-PRO-VDH-WIFI/support#manual

Storage
AMD B550 Chipset
∙ 4x SATA 6Gb/s ports
∙ 2x M.2 slots (Key M)
▪ M2_1 slot (from AMD processor)
▫ Supports PCIe 4.0/ 3.0 x4 *
▫ Supports SATA 6Gb/s
▫ Supports 2242/ 2260/ 2280 storage devices
▪ M2_2 slot (from AMD B550 chipset)
▫ Supports PCIe 3.0x4
▫ Supports 2242/ 2260/ 2280 storage devices

 

[Craig_d1]

Which extra 2TB drive would you buy for the following.

OcUK Gaming Mach 3 - Ryzen 5700X3D, RTX 4070 Super Pre-Built Gaming PC

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www.overclockers.co.uk

As far as I can see it allows for 1x gen 4 and 1x gen 3, also are Overclockers ok with chucking your own extra drive into a pre-built.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B550M-PRO-VDH-WIFI/support#manual

Storage
AMD B550 Chipset
∙ 4x SATA 6Gb/s ports
∙ 2x M.2 slots (Key M)
▪ M2_1 slot (from AMD processor)
▫ Supports PCIe 4.0/ 3.0 x4 *
▫ Supports SATA 6Gb/s
▫ Supports 2242/ 2260/ 2280 storage devices
▪ M2_2 slot (from AMD B550 chipset)
▫ Supports PCIe 3.0x4
▫ Supports 2242/ 2260/ 2280 storage devices

you're buying an am4 platform though. eol with no upgrade path...the am5 7600 cpu will perform on av slightly ahead of the 5700x3d. i peersonally wouldn't buy am4 new now(only 2nd hand for budget build)...too old, and I have an am4 build at home. As well as an am5. i advise against am4

 

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you're buying an am4 platform though. eol with no upgrade path...the am5 7600 cpu will perform on av slightly ahead of the 5700x3d. i peersonally wouldn't buy am4 new now(only 2nd hand for budget build)...too old, and I have an am4 build at home. As well as an am5. i advise against am4

Ok understood, so which pre-built would you go for instead ?

 

[Ad_Augendae]

Thank you both, PC chose and on it's way, something got lost in translation re the case&cooler combo, but it's all good.
Craig, thanks again for your help very late into the evening trying to unscramble my lack of knowledge of the newest tech these days.
Will have to wait and see what PSU they provide!


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x OcUK Gaming Rapier - AMD Ryzen 5 7600 GeForce RTX 4070 Super Gaming PC (SKU: FS-122-OG) = £1,881.02
  • Case: 1 x Kolink Unity Meshbay ARGB Midi Tower Case - Black Window
  • Processor: 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
  • Memory: 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-41600C40 5200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK32GX5M2B5200Z40)
  • Graphics Card: 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge 12Gb Graphics Card
  • Cooler: 1 x Kolink Umbra Void AIO 240mm Performance ARGB CPU Water Cooler
  • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN850X 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2X0E)
  • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E)
  • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,881.02 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Craig_d1]

Thank you both, PC chose and on it's way, something got lost in translation re the case&cooler combo, but it's all good.
Craig, thanks again for your help very late into the evening trying to unscramble my lack of knowledge of the newest tech these days.
Will have to wait and see what PSU they provide!


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x OcUK Gaming Rapier - AMD Ryzen 5 7600 GeForce RTX 4070 Super Gaming PC (SKU: FS-122-OG) = £1,881.02
  • Case: 1 x Kolink Unity Meshbay ARGB Midi Tower Case - Black Window
  • Processor: 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
  • Memory: 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-41600C40 5200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK32GX5M2B5200Z40)
  • Graphics Card: 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge 12Gb Graphics Card
  • Cooler: 1 x Kolink Umbra Void AIO 240mm Performance ARGB CPU Water Cooler
  • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN850X 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2X0E)
  • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E)
  • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,881.02 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

was that cheaper than just sending in a custom config?

at the very least dont include the 4tb drive...they're charging £320 for it, but you can buy one on offer at mo for £220...that's an overcharge of £100 for nothing..takes 2 mins to install one..as a guide, psu they generally put a cheap one in unless you ring thenm and ask to swap it..and also no idea which mobo they using. below is the same pc, using same parts(put a cheaper psu/mobo to reflect probably what you'll get). the black case was out, but this one is extactly same price as the white one they had in stock...just making you aware is all

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E) (SKU: HD-592-WD) = £219.95

Total: £219.95 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E) (SKU: HD-592-WD) = £219.95
• 1 x Kolink Unity Solar ARGB Mesh Midi-Tower Case - Black (SKU: CAS-KLK-00729) = £79.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £179.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge 12Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01499) = £499.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF556C36BBEK2-32) (SKU: MY-29U-KS) = £89.99
• 1 x Kolink Umbra Void AIO 240mm Performance ARGB CPU Water Cooler (SKU: HS-005-KK) = £72.95
• 1 x Aerocool Integrator Gold 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-23T-AE) = £69.94
• 1 x WD Black SN850X 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2X0E) (SKU: HD-590-WD) = £69.95
• 1 x MSI B650 Gaming Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-MSI-03370) = £139.99

Total: £1,422.74 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Ad_Augendae]

If OC Choose to put guff in that machine, everybody will hear about it!

Best Regards

 

[Ad_Augendae]

The Motherboard is an Asus B650 Plus WiFi, best guess on the PSU is Aerocool Integrator Gold 850W 80 Plus Gold
PSU Sticker: SNGIM85FKC3470413
Made a couple of slight mistakes, the main boot drive was supposed to be 1TB SN850X which turned into an SN770. We did ask for a change but they said it was to late even though it wasn't delivered until the end of said week. And the case, no idea what happened with that. So yeah about £300 for the build vs build your own
He's happy so far so all good and thanks again all for the spec help.

I did have one other question though, which port do I use to backup the OCUK Bios settings to usb stick, the one marked flashback ?


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K0-AS) = £169.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £179.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge 12Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01499) = £529.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £82.99
• 1 x Kolink Unity Meshbay ARGB Midi Tower Case - Black Window (SKU: CA-082-KK) = £74.99
• 1 x Kolink Umbra Void AIO 240mm Performance ARGB CPU Water Cooler (SKU: HS-005-KK) = £72.95
• 1 x WD Black SN770 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58F-WD) = £62.99
• 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E) (SKU: HD-592-WD) = £242.99
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632) (SKU: SW-18J-MS) = £107.98
• 1 x Ducky One 3 Classic Fullsize USB RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Cherry Brown - Black UK Layout (SKU: CA-23T-AE) = £89.99
• 1 X Aerocool Integrator Gold 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-23T-AE) = £89.99
  

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Total: £1,704.84 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Craig_d1]

I did have one other question though, which port do I use to backup the OCUK Bios settings to usb stick, the one marked flashback ?

Tbh, haven't tried, but bios fashback is when loading a bios on, and you don't need to power up the pc (as long as the psu is powered on and connected to mobo, bios flashback will work), so that specific usb port must have power in order to download the bios update.
As saving your current bios, your pc will already be powered on as you'll have to be in the bios to save a copy. once you're in, then plug the usb you want to save to in the back and as the pc is powered, I think any usb will be recognised at this point as they'll all have power going to them..so I think you can use any, but using the bios flashback one will work as well
maybe someone else can enlighten, but if you're going to save it anyway, you can test..it wont break anything...when you plug the drive into a usb slot, the bios will either recognise your drive or not..

 

[Ad_Augendae]

Cheers, I did try from the front header with a couple of sticks but nothing showed up hence the question. Will try the others though.