Spec me for £1600

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I need a good gaming build for this price but please do not go over £1700..
Im not to bothered about overclocking but I might consider it.

I need the PC to handle high end gaming video and graphics editing etc

Alternativly I have build this Pc and opinions for that would be welcome


BitFenix Colossus Red LED Big Tower Windowed Case - Black
Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket 1155 Processor - Retail
Phanteks PH-TC14CS CPU Cooler - Silver
Asus P8Z77-V PRO Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CAS8 (Orange & Blue Activity LEDs)
Gainward GeForce GTX 680 2048MB GDDR5
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM
Sandisk Ultra SSD 120GB SATA-2 SSD
OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black)
Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional Soundcard
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
 
Some good choices there, the 670 offers similar performance and overclocks well so you might want that instead, then you can get a larger SSD and things


YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 Windforce 3X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £339.95
1 x Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £251.99
1 x Sandisk Extreme SSD 240GB 2.5" SATA-3 Solid State Hard Drive - (SDSSDX-240G-G25) £154.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard with FREE BOOGIE BUG XXL GAMING MOUSE MAT £139.99
1 x BitFenix Colossus Red LED Big Tower Windowed Case - Black £119.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-Bit - OEM (FQC-04649) £114.98
1 x XFX 850W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver' Power Supply £99.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) £92.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3K4/16GX) £83.99
1 x Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler - Silver (Socket LGA 2011/1155/1156/1366/775/AMD AM2/2+/AM3) £62.99
1 x Samsung SH-S222BB/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £1,494.53 (includes shipping : £14.75).



Is this mainly for gaming? If so 8GB of RAM and an i5 is plenty.
 
Get the crucial M4 instead of the Sandisk. It's on special at only £89 and is generally the best value and most reliable SSD.
Also, go for the GTX670 rather than the 680 as there isn't much difference in performance but £100 difference in price.
 
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-3930K 3.20GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail £449.99
1 x Asus Rampage IV Formula Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £268.55
2 x OcUK GeForce GTX 580 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - OEM £199.99 (£399.98)
1 x CM Storm Trooper Full Tower Gaming Case - Black £109.99
1 x XFX 850W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver' Power Supply £99.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £88.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366/LGA2011/AM2/AM3) (CWCH100) £84.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £72.00
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) £68.99
1 x Samsung Green (MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz 30nm Dual Channel Kit £53.99
Total : £1,715.15 (includes shipping : £14.75).



SLI 580 GTX for 200 quid each is very good value, it will outperform 680 by about 40% for the same price.... However they only have 1.5gb vram each, could be a worry...

This CPU has 12 threads and 6 cores.

With that Mobo, running SLI should not raise temperature issues since the slots are far away from each other

Corsair H100 should fit into case since the top fans, could be exchanged for 2x140mm...

All of this is an overkill though, for gaming as mentioned above 3570K will be fine with single 580... Although I saw that you wanted something close to 1700 so I showed you.

Samsung Green RAM is the ram to get these days, overclocks like a beast.

That Motherboard was made for overclocking and pushing the system to the max.
 
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YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 Windforce 3X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £339.95
1 x Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £239.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 256GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT256M4SSD2) £191.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £173.99
1 x Antec 1200 Twelve Hundred (V3 with USB3.0) Ultimate Gaming Case - Black £109.99
1 x XFX 850W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver' Power Supply £99.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) £92.99
1 x Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 PCI-E Sound Card £89.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX16GX3M2A1600C11) £83.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H80 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366/LGA2011/AM2/AM3) (CWCH80) £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £72.00
1 x Samsung SH-S222BB/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £1,613.95 (includes shipping : £20.10).




Windforce come highly recommended as coolers. Got the i7 for your video editing processes, massive SSD, loads of storage, PSU that is more than enough for SLi, 16GB of RAM again better for video editing processes (and why not? it's so cheap?), top CPU cooler, great mobo and all in a BIG case that imo looks great and despite its age still keeps it cool and for £110 I'd still choose it. Depending on resolution or when games move on etc, whack another 670 in there and BOOM, fresh top gaming rig again.
 
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Sharplucas said:
^That rig is Overkill Plus Over Budget!
And I don't recommend starting with Sli I suggest a stronger card to start with.
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Guy asked not to go over 1700... well delivery costs, whats wrong with getting overkill PC if its within your budget? Whats wrong with SLI if its same price and performs 40% better than "Stronger card (680)" You can go 3 way 580 easily if you wanted to. Keeping in mind that most suggested 670 and not 680, You can easily move my build into 1600 by choosing a cheaper Motherboard...

Today`s overkill PC tomorrow will be average Joe`s :/
 
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No, I don't agree with the fact that you have put x2 Gtx 580's in the basket;

You may as well pay for the 7970-680 Since 580's is overkill anyway, it's old technology may as well get 22nm, cooler, use less power, 1.5gb's of vram Is Horrible for games Like Bf3 and Skyrim and Crysis that easily go over 2gb's of vram In some cases and It wont give you much headroom for the future. Plus if you get a 680 or 670 or 7970, you can always grab another, their is also problems with Sli and crossfire most of the time especially with Newer drivers and Older cards

As for gpu's I suggest this,
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-152-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938

it comes with 3 Games and has a Higher clock speed then most Gtx 680's and is quite a bit cheaper! :D

As for that rig, Cpu is Overkill for gaming even video editing, I suggest dropping to a i7 3770k and Ocing it then instead grab 16gb memory with the left over £££ and then grab a nice z77 Mobo, there are quite a few Nice Mobo's out their Such as:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-513-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-389-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-199-MS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261 :)
 
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No, I don't agree with the fact that you have put x2 Gtx 580's in the basket;

You may as well pay for the 7970-680 Since 580's is overkill anyway, it's old technology may as well get 22nm, cooler, use less power, 1.5gb's of vram Is Horrible for games Like Bf3 and Skyrim and Crysis that easily go over 2gb's of vram In some cases and It wont give you much headroom for the future. Plus if you get a 680 or 670 or 7970, you can always grab another, their is also problems with Sli and crossfire most of the time especially with Newer drivers and Older cards

As for gpu's I suggest this,
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-152-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938

it comes with 3 Games and has a Higher clock speed then most Gtx 680's and is quite a bit cheaper! :D

As for that rig, Cpu is Overkill for gaming even video editing, I suggest dropping to a i7 3770k and Ocing it then instead grab 16gb memory with the left over £££ and then grab a nice z77 Mobo, there are quite a few Nice Mobo's out their Such as:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-513-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-389-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-199-MS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261 :)
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Akward moment when GTX 580 SLI 1.5gb performs better FPS wise than 7970, in all games you mentioned above for same price, I dont know what you own that in bf3 it "easily goes over 2gb" I play on ultra and never goes past 1300 same goes for skyrim...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/508?vs=584

Here is 680


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/584?vs=555


For me, a person who unless gets value for money cant sleep, the SLI GTX is a smart choice, I wouldnt be able to buy 7970 knowing that it will run bf3 on 72 fps while for same price GTX 580 would do it on 120... With this in mind, next crysis or battlefield that will come out, will be playable on GTX SLI on ultra while 7970 will struggle greatly... Especially once FPS fall, 10fps will make difference between choppy and smooth game play e.g 25fps vs 35fps. Once you decide to Crossfire that 7970 you go and end up spending 2wise more than GTX SLI and dont get great results when you find out GTX 580 SLI beats 7970 crossfire in some games and when it doesnt, fps difference is minimal about 5-14 fps...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/588?vs=584

You do have a point though about new technologies ect ect... But 200 quid for 580 is a great price and great value for money.
 
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Ha, I've seen people talk about going over 1.5gb a lot especially in heavy modded games with Hd textures packs, Plus that Gtx 580 is refrence, He is going to be buying a Non- refrence 7970 or gtx 680 So their will be much better performance gain.

You can oc these things like crazy and those benchmarks are from when games/video cards are just released you realise that there's been a ton of patches and new drivers for video cards and Games so they perform different now.

I don't know what your On about when you say "Gtx 580 is better then a 7970 for these games" take a look at this.



 
Sharplucas said:
Ha, I've seen people talk about going over 1.5gb a lot especially in heavy modded games with Hd textures packs, Plus that Gtx 580 is refrence, He is going to be buying a Non- refrence 7970 or gtx 680 So their will be much better performance gain.

You can oc these things like crazy and those benchmarks are from when games/video cards are just released you realise that there's been a ton of patches and new drivers for video cards and Games so they perform different now.

I don't know what your On about when you say "Gtx 580 is better then a 7970 for these games" take a look at this.



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Facepalm, I never compared SINGLE 580 vs 7970... :confused: There is about 200 pounds difference between 580 and 7970, you cant even compare them :/

So with this in mind you are saying that 580 GTX SLI performs worse than SINGLE 7970 in games?


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So lets get this straight, you admitted that 580 SLI is better pefromer than 7970 it carries pretty much same price... But in the end buying 580 SLI over 7970 is stupid and waste of money according to you ? :D

Even though if you Crossfire 7970 on a later date, the FPS rate in games will not be much higher than 580 SLI and sometimes even lower, and you will end up paying 2 wise much for 7970 Crossfire than 580 SLI....

So where is your argument?? You`re saying that SLI/Crossfire is stupid, while arguing to get 7970 so that you can Crossfire later on, even though its bad value for money to do so against gtx 580.

Are you a Troll Sir?
 
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No, I can't be asked with you, I've stated the reasons why I think it's a bad decision and 1 card is always Better because of drivers, Heat, not Much of a performance gain, you could get a Much cheaper really damn good Non reference 7970, can Oc them Like crazy too and these Gtx 580's you speak of are crappy reference Ones, they cost more, less Vram, Not future proof at all Plus 22nm. All for maybe 10-15 Fps Boost? I don't think so :)
 
Sharplucas said:
No, I can't be asked with you, I've stated the reasons why I think it's a bad decision and 1 card is always Better because of drivers, Heat, not Much of a performance gain, you could get a Much cheaper really damn good Non reference 7970, can Oc them Like crazy too and these Gtx 580's you speak of are crappy reference Ones, they cost more, less Vram, Not future proof at all Plus 22nm. All for maybe 10-15 Fps Boost? I don't think so :)
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There is 50 fps difference in bf3... Future proof, what are you talking about?? If you say that 10-15 fps is not significant which is all you going to get against SLI 580 if you Crossfire 7970, you`ll just end up paying 2 times more.

Future proofness is 0 in your case.

:confused:

I am not going to argue with you any more, we have different views and thats great, sadly I dont seem to see common sense in your ideas, so further discussion is useless.
 
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Dude, that's One game and it's not like your going to constantly stay at 120Fps. Plus those 580's Like I've said are OEM + Non reference, What's the point? may as well buy a 670 or 7970 and as for crossfire It's really not needed unless he wants more fps.
 
Try not to fill the thread with graphics card arguments!

I'd suggest a GTX670, since it uses little power for great performance, and you can add another later.
 
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