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Hi all , i think i need a big upgrade and so i have been given around £700 to spend on a new : mobo, cpu, gfx card, RAM , case + psu and COOLING. Any ideas?

I game a lot and 2gb of RAM is essential.

Thanks for your time

Josh
 
REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST
CP-121-AM AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA3700BNBOX) (CP-121-AM) 1
£137.95 £137.95
MB-101-AS Asus A8N-SLi SE nForce4 SLi (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-101-AS) 1
£69.95 £69.95
MY-046-GL GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS3 (GE2GB3200BDC) (MY-046-GL) 1
£109.95 £109.95
GX-069-LT Leadtek GeForce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-069-LT) 1
£184.95 £184.95
Subtotal £502.80
VAT £87.99
Total £590.79

I couldn't get the case I wanted into this spec, it wouldn't let me for whatever reason. It was the "Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W". Should keep you going for a good while.

*edit* you could go for an X1800XL, they're supposed to be slightly better than the 7800GT, I think.
 
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Leaves £40 for a case.

The motherboard is the one part I'm not too sure on. I've heard it is a reasonable clocker, so twinned with the good RAM you should be able to run 250x8 which is a 200MHz clock and 50MHz FSB increase. Should be good for max(ish) DoD:S 1024x768 settings.
 
supergt said:
Hi all , i think i need a big upgrade and so i have been given around £700 to spend on a new : mobo, cpu, gfx card, RAM , case + psu and COOLING. Any ideas?

I game a lot and 2gb of RAM is essential.

Thanks for your time

Josh


Try this:

CP-134-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA3800BVBOX) (CP-134-AM)
£184.95 £184.95
MB-088-AS Asus A8N-E nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-088-AS)
£61.95 £61.95
MY-046-GL GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS3 (GE2GB3200BDC) (MY-046-GL)
£109.95 £109.95
GX-042-HT HIS Excalibur ATI Radeon X1800 XL 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-042-HT)
£179.95 £179.95
CA-040-AN Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W Smart Power PSU (CA-040-AN)
£65.50 £65.50
Subtotal £602.30
VAT £105.41
Total £707.71
 
*** about this guys?

REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST REMOVE
MB-014-DF DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-014-DF)
£84.95 £84.95
MY-008-GS G.Skill 2GB DDR HZ PC4000 (2x1GB) CAS3 Dual Channel Kit (F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ) (MY-008-GS)
£129.95 £129.95
CP-141-AM AMD Opteron UP 144 San Diego 1.8GHz 1MB Cache (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-141-AM)
£121.95 £121.95
GX-048-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X1800 XT 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-048-PC)
£244.95 £244.95
HS-005-VP VapoChill Micro Extreme Performance (Socket 754/939/940) (06-L-0015) (HS-005-VP)
£23.95 £23.95
Subtotal £605.75
VAT £106.01
Total £711.76
 
Its really down to choice. Personally I would say the CoolerMaster Cavalier 3. Some people don't like the looks, some do. I find its a nice weight for carting to LANs while still maintaining good build quality. The CoolerMaster toolless drive installation makes it so much less fiddly to install drives :) *slide, click*


edit: I think you'd find better performance out of a £240 7800GT. ATI are behind in the mid to upper-mid sector of graphics. Its not up until the X1900s that ATI come back into the game.
 
*** about this?

Gainward BLISS GeForce 7800 GT "Goes Like Hell" 512MB GDDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GWGFFX7647) (GX-026-GW)
 
Eliminos said:
edit: I think you'd find better performance out of a £240 7800GT. ATI are behind in the mid to upper-mid sector of graphics. Its not up until the X1900s that ATI come back into the game.
Are you kidding. You must be.

The X1800XT is a much faster card than the 7800GTX.
So it absolutely kills the 7800GT.

He would be much better of getting the X1800XT, why get him to get the slower card?
 
ACESHIGH said:
Are you kidding. You must be.

The X1800XT is a much faster card than the 7800GTX.
So it absolutely kills the 7800GT.

He would be much better of getting the X1800XT, why get him to get the slower card?
No it isn't, the 7800gt is just as good if not better with many games than the x1800xt or xl. You're maybe thinking of the x1900xtx!
 
Monstermunch said:
No it isn't, the 7800gt is just as good if not better with many games than the x1800xt or xl. You're maybe thinking of the x1900xtx!

Sorry but how can you be so wrong. (you are thinking of the X1800XL).

The 7800GT & X1800XL are about equal.

The X1800XT does beat the 7800GTX 256MB & any 7800GT easily.


Many links coming to prove this.
 
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/228

In our benchmark Radeon X1800 XT with 512 MB was faster than GeForce 7800 GTX with 256 MB. Period.
Once again, we could say that Radeon X1800 XT is really faster than GeForce 7800 GTX.
As a side note, GeForce 7800 GTX model from XFX we included in our comparisons is factory-overclocked, running at 450 MHz (instead of 430 MHz) and memory running at 1.25 GHz (instead of 1.2 GHz).

See the stock X1800XT beats an overclocked 7800GTX.



http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/06/ati_enters_the_x1000_promised_land/

Benchmark Conclusions:
From these two synthetic and four "real world" game engines you can see that ATI has taken the 16 pixel shader and 8 vertex shader pipelines from the X850 generation and massively overhauled them into a highly efficient system. In many of the tests at 10x7 and 16x12 resolutions, the 24 and eight pipelines of the NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX could not keep up with the ATI X1800XT.
One of the most drastic leaps was in 3DMark 2005 where the 16x12 4xAA 8xAF score lead the NVIDIA 7800 GTX by over 1,100 marks.
Then with the OGL fix for games like Doom3 Quake 4, the X1800XT pulled ahead even more.



http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2556

The X1800 XT will be good competition for the 7800 GTX, besting it in many cases

The additional tests that we've run help to solidify our assessment of ATI's situation with the X1000 line. Our tests show that the high end ATI cards handle enabling antialiasing better than NVIDIA cards overall.



http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=843

In the regular scores without AA and AF the X1800XT of course dominates.
As you can see there is no competition here. The X1800XT crushes the two other cards. With no AA/AF even the X1800Xl can almost keep up with the GeForce 7800GTX but as we turn on AA/AF it falls behind.
 
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Find me a link that shows any 7800GT even close to an X1800XT please guys.
You wont be able to.

So please Eliminos & Monstermunch dont post if you dont know what you are talking about (or are you Nvidia fandboys?)


supergt if you do read this thread again, do yourself a favour & get the much faster X1800XT. Or post in the graphics card section & you will see that everyone there will also backup what i have said.

The X1800XT will beat any 7800GT or 7800GTX 256MB card.
 
a) Sorry i was thinking of the x1800xl
b) We are clearly not 'fanbois,' if you were paying attention you will notice that mostermunch recommended an x1800 and I've just bought an x1900xtx.
c) You can post reviews all day long, we can all come back and post one that contradicts yours. Look: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2005/11/11/ati_x1800xt_512mb/1.html
Having said that, those who decided to purchase the XFX GeForce 7800 GTX Extreme Gamer Edition when they did, should not be disappointed with their video card purchase - it is as fast, if not faster in several situations

But yes, the x1800XT is probably a better card
 
Eliminos said:
a) Sorry i was thinking of the x1800xl
b) We are clearly not 'fanbois,' if you were paying attention you will notice that mostermunch recommended an x1800 and I've just bought an x1900xtx.
c) You can post reviews all day long, we can all come back and post one that contradicts yours. Look: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2005/11/11/ati_x1800xt_512mb/1.html
Having said that, those who decided to purchase the XFX GeForce 7800 GTX Extreme Gamer Edition when they did, should not be disappointed with their video card purchase - it is as fast, if not faster in several situations

But yes, the x1800XT is probably a better card
YES IT IS.

I was annoyed because you were giving advice that someone was relying on, yet it was clearly wrong.

The X1800XT is a better card than the 7800GT you advised him to get.

And even that link only shows that a pre-overclocked 7800GTX 256MB is as fast, if not faster in several situations only, in the rest the stock X1800XT is faster.
 
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