spec me up pls

[bbK]

Gaming Rig required...

around £1200 to spend...

Dont need a monitor/keyboard/mouse/speakers

Thanks !

 

[semi-pro waster]

This is well under the budget so if you need an OS or want to choose a nicer case or better clocking Ram then you have that option but for the price you have a very fast system at stock

CP-127-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4400CDBOX) (CP-127-AM)
£284.95 £284.95
GX-047-HT HIS Excalibur ATI Radeon X1900 XT-X 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-047-HT)
£299.95 £299.95
MY-006-MK Mushkin 2GB DDR EM3200 Enhanced Performance Dual Channel Kit (2x1GB) CAS3 (991461) (MY-006-MK)
£114.95 £114.95
MB-129-AS Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£69.95 £69.95
CD-026-NE NEC ND4551 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer LabelFlash ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-026-NE)
£27.95 £27.95
CA-040-AN Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W Smart Power PSU (CA-040-AN)
£65.95 £65.95
HD-048-WD Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 200GB 2000JS SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-048-WD)
£51.95 £51.95
Subtotal £915.65
VAT £160.24
Total £1,075.89

 

[bbK]

This is well under the budget so if you need an OS or want to choose a nicer case or better clocking Ram then you have that option but for the price you have a very fast system at stock

CP-127-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4400CDBOX) (CP-127-AM)
£284.95 £284.95
GX-047-HT HIS Excalibur ATI Radeon X1900 XT-X 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-047-HT)
£299.95 £299.95
MY-006-MK Mushkin 2GB DDR EM3200 Enhanced Performance Dual Channel Kit (2x1GB) CAS3 (991461) (MY-006-MK)
£114.95 £114.95
MB-129-AS Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£69.95 £69.95
CD-026-NE NEC ND4551 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer LabelFlash ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-026-NE)
£27.95 £27.95
CA-040-AN Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W Smart Power PSU (CA-040-AN)
£65.95 £65.95
HD-048-WD Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 200GB 2000JS SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-048-WD)
£51.95 £51.95
Subtotal £915.65
VAT £160.24
Total £1,075.89

Thanks not to sure about the X2 cpus... might slightly adjust that.

 

[semi-pro waster]

Thanks not to sure about the X2 cpus... might slightly adjust that.

What are you not sure about? You effectively have 2x 3700 San Diego chips on one core so it is fast in single cored operation but will excel for multitasking or dual core specific programs. You could choose a dual core Opteron if you want to go for larger overclocks maybe and you do get 2mb L2 cache but otherwise the X2 4400 is a good CPU.

 

[bbK]

What are you not sure about? You effectively have 2x 3700 San Diego chips on one core so it is fast in single cored operation but will excel for multitasking or dual core specific programs. You could choose a dual core Opteron if you want to go for larger overclocks maybe and you do get 2mb L2 cache but otherwise the X2 4400 is a good CPU.

Just my friend said something about them that i cant remember, another friend spec'd me this.. what you think?

CA-009-TT Thermaltake VA7000SWA Shark Aluminium Full Tower - Silver (CA-009-TT)
£69.95 £69.95
MB-118-AS Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe nForce4 SLi X16 (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-118-AS)
£119.95 £119.95
CP-120-AM AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4000BNBOX) (CP-120-AM)
£201.95 £201.95
GX-033-OK OcUK GeForce 7800GTX SILENT Extreme 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) (GX-033-DE)
£219.95 £219.95
MY-058-OC OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC4000 Dual Channel Platinum Series EB-DDR CAS3 (OCZ5002048EBPE-K) (MY-058-OC)
£189.95 £189.95
HD-036-WD Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 320GB 3200JB ATA-100 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-036-WD)
£71.95 £71.95
CA-036-AN Antec Phantom 500W Hybrid Fan Silent ATX2.0 PSU (CA-036-AN)
£84.95 £84.95
CD-049-SO Sony DWG120A 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-049-SO)
£23.95 £23.95
Subtotal £982.60
VAT £171.96
Total £1,154.56

 

[semi-pro waster]

The system will work fine however the 7800GTX is still overpriced for what it is and a X1900XTX will eat it for breakfast(poetic licence slightly but still you get the picture). In fact you could get an X1800XT and it would beat the 7800GTX.

The CPU is good but still pretty expensive and you could get dual core for around the same price.

I don't know too much about the Ram so whether PC4000 is better for overclocking or whether PC3200 with tight timings is better I don't have a clue I'm afraid.

I'd also change the DVDRW for an NEC I think as they are pretty highly thought of.

The case and PSU are matters of personal choice. Thermaltake tend to remind me of slightly cheaper Coolermaster rip-offs but if you like them go for it

Could you ask your friend what he has against X2 chips because I don't know of any obvious problems?

 

[Street]

Thanks not to sure about the X2 cpus... might slightly adjust that.

Personally, if I was upgrading now or in the future I would be looking at getting a dual core processor. They are the future really and more and more games and programs will make use of them in times to come.

 

[DaveBennett]

REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST REMOVE
GX-045-CO ATI Radeon X1900 ***Crossfire Edition*** 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-045-CO)
£314.95 £314.95
HD-017-SA Samsung SpinPoint P SP2004C 200GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-017-SA)
£52.95 £52.95
HD-001-OK OcUK Value Floppy Drive - Black (HD-001-OK)
£5.95 £5.95
MY-046-GL GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS3 (GE2GB3200BDC) (MY-046-GL)
£99.95 £99.95
CA-005-HP Hiper HPU-4K580-MK Type R 580W Modular ATX2.2 PSU - Black UV (CA-005-HP)
£52.95 £52.95
CA-054-LL Lian-Li PC-7 PLUS Black Aluminium Midi-Tower Case (No PSU) (CA-054-LL)
£48.95 £48.95
CD-016-AS Asus DRW-1608P2 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - Retail (CD-016-AS)
£26.95 £53.90
MB-111-AS Asus A8N-SLi Premium nForce4 SLi (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-111-AS)
£104.95 £104.95
CP-128-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4600BVBOX) (CP-128-AM)

 

[Explicit]

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4400CDBOX) (CP-127-AM)
£334.82
Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£82.19
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC3200 Dual Channel Platinum Series EL-DDR CAS2 (OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K) (MY-057-OC)
£164.44
Connect3D ATI Radeon X1900 XT-X 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (3055) (GX-046-CO)
£346.57
Hitachi Deskstar T7K250 NCQ 250GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM (0A31636) (HD-002-HI)
£70.44
Antec SLK3000B Midi Tower Case - No PSU (CA-027-AN)
£35.19
Tagan TG530-U15 530W ATX2.01 Easycon SLi Compliant Modular Silent PSU (CA-008-TG)
£70.44
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£15.22


Total inc VAT: £1,119.31

 

[bbK]

ok you guys got me, im gonna go with the X2

i've looked at the specs you guys have provided and come up with this :

MB-118-AS Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe nForce4 SLi X16 (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-118-AS)
£119.95 £119.95
HD-036-WD Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 320GB 3200JB ATA-100 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-036-WD)
£71.95 £71.95
CP-127-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4400CDBOX) (CP-127-AM)
£284.95 £284.95
MY-058-OC OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC4000 Dual Channel Platinum Series EB-DDR CAS3 (OCZ5002048EBPE-K) (MY-058-OC)
£189.95 £189.95
CA-009-TT Thermaltake VA7000SWA Shark Aluminium Full Tower - Silver (CA-009-TT)
£69.95 £69.95
CA-008-TG Tagan TG530-U15 530W ATX2.01 Easycon SLi Compliant Modular Silent PSU (CA-008-TG)
£59.95 £59.95
GX-018-BG BFG GeForce 7900 GT OC 256MB GDDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-018-BG)
£239.95 £239.95
Subtotal £1,036.65
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Saturday Delivery)) £20.95
VAT £185.08
Total £1,242.68

What do you guys think? pros/cons if any?

 

[Explicit]

What do you guys think? pros/cons if any?

Looks like you're going for SLi then. The new 7900GT is slightly faster than the 7800GTX, so I would take that instead.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2717&p=5

 

[bbK]

Ok i edited my last post with the updated gfx are we all good now

I also have another question the GFX card is using a DVI port to connect the monitor right? well on my monitors i dont have a DVI port is there an adapter of some kind i can get?

 

[Explicit]

Ok i edited my last post with the updated gfx are we all good now

I also have another question the GFX card is using a DVI port to connect the monitor right? well on my monitors i dont have a DVI port is there an adapter of some kind i can get?

lol, happy now

The graphics card will include the adaptor that you need

 

[bbK]

lol, happy now

The graphics card will include the adaptor that you need

Are you 100% sure about the GFX coming with the adapter?

i dont want my new rig delivered saturday and not being able to use it till monday lol

 

[bbK]

Oh ye and this should be the last question... the pc im on right now i want to hook up to the net with the new rig so im wanting a wireless router, what exactly do i need to setup both pc's on th wireless connection? (sry ive never done this before)

 

[BigDom]

Personally I'd go X1800XT over the 7900GT.

 

[Explicit]

Are you 100% sure about the GFX coming with the adapter?

i dont want my new rig delivered saturday and not being able to use it till monday lol

I'm 100% certain that it comes with the adaptor:

http://www.bfgtech.com/7900GT_256_PCIX.html ("DVI-I to VGA dongle")

Oh ye and this should be the last question... the pc im on right now i want to hook up to the net with the new rig so im wanting a wireless router, what exactly do i need to setup both pc's on th wireless connection? (sry ive never done this before)

Well, you need a wireless router. And then you need a wireless adaptor (usb or pci) for each machine you want to connect to the router. But usually you can connect 4 machines directly to the router with RJ-45 cable.

So, you can have the router sitting next to your main rig connected directly to the 4 port switch on the back of the router (i.e. wired). And then one wireless adaptor for your other machine. OR, you can just have them both wireless, in which case you have to buy two wireless adaptors.

Shopping list:

- Wireless router (choose one that includes Modem/Router/Switch/Firewall)
- One wireless adaptor (usb or pci) (or two if you want both rigs wireless)
- 1 RJ-45 cable, usually supplied with the router (won't need this if boths rigs are wireless)

 

[bbK]

Thanks a lot !

 

[Explicit]

Thanks a lot !

I know it probably sounds confusing in writing, but look for diagrams. Linksys used to have some great diagrams but I can't find them anymore.

I forgot to say, you will need a network card if you're going to connect your main rig to the router's switch. Most mobos have this port at the back, so have a look.

 

[BigDom]

Oh on the wireless side I reccomend two things :-

1) Belkin - VERY easy to setup .
2) Make sure it's encripted, reason I say use Belkin is that it makes encription easy to setup. Basically you give any Belkin equipment a password and it generates 4 keys. You then decide which of the 4 you want to use. Use the same password and select the same of the 4 and you don't have to remember/write down keys. Very easy and simple to setup.