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[ecksmen]

So I'm out the loop on this sort of thing, a friend wants play WOW, CS:GO, League of Legends, RuneScape. They have an aging PC that's fairly dead and they want to upgrade. So.

Budget = £500
They have
- Power Supply (EVO Labs)
- Radeon HD 6850 X 2 (SLI ?)
- Disk / SSDs
- Antec A40 CPU Cooler.

They want
- CPU
- MOBO
- RAM
- Case

So the 6850 are old and I don't think the games are too demanding, and I'm guessing 1080p so integrated graphics could be an option, but what would recommend?

 

[orbitalwalsh]

https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/137431

next wow is going to get a bit more demanding - and ryzen 1600 should last them years !


My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £158.99
• 1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £86.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000= £68.99
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £69.95
• 1 x Kolink Stronghold Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black Tempered Glass Side Window= £37.99

Total: £434.61 (includes shipping: £11.70)


even this would fly

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000= £68.99
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £69.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Quad Core 1400 3.40GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £119.99
• 1 x Palit GeForce GTX 1050Ti StormX 4096MB PCI-Express GDDR5 Graphics Card= £149.99
• 1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard= £72.95
• 1 x Aerocool QS-240 Micro-ATX Case - Black= £29.99

Total: £523.56 (includes shipping: £11.70)​

​

 

[Begbie]

If the A40 works with AM4, the 1600X is the same price currently.

 

[ecksmen]

Thanks for the suggestions, I'm guessing this means to keep his g'card rather than go integrated?

 

[orbitalwalsh]

If they love wow , then they'll be changing their card
2400g could handle most of the games just fine though

Gtx 1050ti and ryzen 1400 is a great performer

 

[eddiew]

Can't help thinking an i3 8350K might not be stupid for those games... Probably the best low-thread performance you're going to find?

 

[ecksmen]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £158.99
• 1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £86.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000= £68.99
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £69.95
• 1 x Kolink Stronghold Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black Tempered Glass Side Window= £37.99

Total: £434.61 (includes shipping: £11.70)


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I'm thinking the above list, but with instead the 2400G for integrated Vega for approx £410. Two cores less but the vega option appears to kick the HD6850. Is this a stupid idea?

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I'm thinking the above list, but with instead the 2400G for integrated Vega for approx £410. Two cores less but the vega option appears to kick the HD6850. Is this a stupid idea?

Not really, because you know there will be another generation next year, if you need the extra power you can always grab (second hand) 2600/3600 in the future
Ryzen 1400 should handle low to mid their cards nicely of this gen and next.

Get a good cooler to go with it, and overclock Vega first before doing the core or priority to Vega

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-m9a-single-tower-heatsink-for-amd-hs-00b-cy.html

 

[ecksmen]

Not really, because you know there will be another generation next year, if you need the extra power you can always grab (second hand) 2600/3600 in the future
Ryzen 1400 should handle low to mid their cards nicely of this gen and next.

Get a good cooler to go with it, and overclock Vega first before doing the core or priority to Vega

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-m9a-single-tower-heatsink-for-amd-hs-00b-cy.html

Cheers for the help!

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Cheers for the help!

No worries

 

[Panos]

https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/137431

next wow is going to get a bit more demanding - and ryzen 1600 should last them years !


My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £158.99
• 1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £86.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000= £68.99
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £69.95
• 1 x Kolink Stronghold Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black Tempered Glass Side Window= £37.99

Total: £434.61 (includes shipping: £11.70)


even this would fly

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000= £68.99
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £69.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Quad Core 1400 3.40GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £119.99
• 1 x Palit GeForce GTX 1050Ti StormX 4096MB PCI-Express GDDR5 Graphics Card= £149.99
• 1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard= £72.95
• 1 x Aerocool QS-240 Micro-ATX Case - Black= £29.99

Total: £523.56 (includes shipping: £11.70)
​

Should replace the 1600 with 2600. Far superior CPU and just 1fps slower than the 8700K.

 

[~>Dg<~]

its a good cpu but please with the misleading statements.1fps slower.

ryzen build does fit your budget.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Should replace the 1600 with 2600. Far superior CPU and just 1fps slower than the 8700K.

at the time, 1600 was on sale. coding here pulls current prices i believe . was £140 which was a good £40 cheaper then 2600 . wit budget systems thats a jump from 1050 to 50ti or from 50ti to 1060

 

[BongoHunter]

I would normally go Ryzen all the way - but new pentium is not to bad (4 thread), GFX card is better than 1050, and you get 16GB of RAM...

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 580 Pulse 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £278.99
• 1 x Intel Pentium G5400 3.70GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail= £58.99
• 1 x Asrock H310M-HDV Intel H310 (Socket 1151) DDR4 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £51.95
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G24= £134.99

Total: £536.02 (includes shipping: £11.10)


EDIT: could drop to 8GB of Ram and ge the 4 core i3 if new WOW will be that much more demanding...​

 

[BongoHunter]

Ryzen version (Less RAM):
My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 580 Pulse 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £278.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD4= £89.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 3 Quad Core 1300X 3.70GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £98.99
• 1 x Asrock A320M-DGS AMD A320 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard= £47.99

Total: £527.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)​

​

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I would normally go Ryzen all the way - but new pentium is not to bad (4 thread), GFX card is better than 1050, and you get 16GB of RAM...

EDIT: could drop to 8GB of Ram and ge the 4 core i3 if new WOW will be that much more demanding...​

Hadd to drop stigma of older gens pent/i3 being so much better value for money . Glad I sold my i5 7600k a while ago, specially seeing the 8350k rock up a little beast

 

[BongoHunter]

Hadd to drop stigma of older gens pent/i3 being so much better value for money . Glad I sold my i5 7600k a while ago, specially seeing the 8350k rock up a little beast

I got a KabyLake G4650 (2c4t) recently for a FreeNAS box I put together - I paired it with my 1070, and 16GB of DDR4 before doing the NAS build for a little test and it was a decent performer in StarWars Battlefront, The Division and CSGO - punchy little chips, I would think the CFL versions are even better with the higher clocks for the base models - we really do live in a GPU limited world for all but a few games.