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Shep_Cobain

Shep_Cobain

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Hey guys,

I'm building a mammoth machine for my friend. This is what i have gone for so far.

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Hes looking at spending £4.5k max on a gaming rig. He likes the idea of 3D and wants the surround vision effect.

I can't think of what case would suit this at the moment but maybe you can help?

Is there anything i am missing or you would change in the current spec.

All i can say is i wish i had a spare £4.5k for a gaming rig lol.

Thanks,

Shep.
 
The Antec 920 is better than the Corsair H70 - although the Corsair H100 might be better than the Antec but it's not out yet.

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I am an AMD man myself so I don't have to much input. But from what I have heard don't waste money on getting a pre over clocked bundle. The 'k' version chips are apparently quite east for anyone to over clock as long as you can find the bios :)
 
stulid said:
Tri-SLI is no good, normal SLI is where the sweet spot is at.

Get GTX580 that expel hot air out of the case - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-141-GW
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whats wrong with tri SLI? does it not scale well or something?

also, thats only a 1.5Gb card, with a 3D surround monitor setup you will really want a 3GB card.

taking (almost) all of what you have said on board, i've come up with this (not sure if the card expells hot air out of the case)

YOUR BASKET
3 x Samsung S27A950D 27" 120Hz 3D Widescreen Ultra Thin LED Monitor - Glossy Black £599.99
2 x MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £499.99
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor £239.99
1 x Silverstone Fortress FT02B-W Windowed Gaming Case - Black £219.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £183.98
1 x OCZ ZX Series 1250W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £169.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £139.99
1 x Nvidia GeForce 3D Vision Kit £109.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £64.99
1 x LG CH10LS20 10x BluRay-ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black (Retail) £54.98
1 x Saitek Cyborg V7 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard £52.99
1 x Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA775/AM2/AM3) £50.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000524AS) £43.99
1 x Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse (910-000616) £24.98
1 x Boogie Bug AimB.Pad XL Gaming Mouse Surface £13.99
Total : £4,216.70 (includes shipping : £38.25).

please tell me if ive forgotten about something (i've been making a bunch of adjustments to the build, so its very possible)
 
Reaper 392 said:
whats wrong with tri SLI? does it not scale well or something?

also, thats only a 1.5Gb card, with a 3D surround monitor setup you will really want a 3GB card.

taking (almost) all of what you have said on board, i've come up with this (not sure if the card expells hot air out of the case)

YOUR BASKET
3 x Samsung S27A950D 27" 120Hz 3D Widescreen Ultra Thin LED Monitor - Glossy Black £599.99
2 x MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £499.99
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor £239.99
1 x Silverstone Fortress FT02B-W Windowed Gaming Case - Black £219.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £183.98
1 x OCZ ZX Series 1250W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £169.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £139.99
1 x Nvidia GeForce 3D Vision Kit £109.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £64.99
1 x LG CH10LS20 10x BluRay-ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black (Retail) £54.98
1 x Saitek Cyborg V7 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard £52.99
1 x Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA775/AM2/AM3) £50.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000524AS) £43.99
1 x Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse (910-000616) £24.98
1 x Boogie Bug AimB.Pad XL Gaming Mouse Surface £13.99
Total : £4,216.70 (includes shipping : £38.25).

please tell me if ive forgotten about something (i've been making a bunch of adjustments to the build, so its very possible)
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One thing, the original build had 2 SSDs to put in RAID whereas you specced one.
 
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thats only going up to 2560x1600. if the OP goes for 5760*1080 resolution then thats another 50% added to the resolution, which surely must benefit from more VRAM than 1.5GB

i know theres a thread here somewhere where a 3GB card with one 1080p screen will exceed 1.5GB VRAM in certain games.

also, the future proofing of the 3GB cant hurt can it

as to the SSD in RAID, theres enough room in the budget for a second one of them, but if speed is really an issue, then prehaps a PCIe SSD would be best?
 
How about making these changes then:

2 x Hazro HZ27WC 8-Bit 27" LED Widescreen Professional Glass Monitor - Black

&

2 x OcUK Value GeForce GTX 590 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

??? better performance or worst. Baring in mind thats got no 3D.
 
stulid said:
You do realize that 1080P resolution is a lot less than the max resolution in that review?
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yes, which makes it all the more worrying that even at 1080p more than 1.5GB is being used

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shep, it will technically give better performance, but remember that a 590 is two 580's in SLI, just on one card. so the performance gain of the second card would be the same as quad SLI, which is going to be pretty poo if triple SLI isnt up to much.

it will also probably melt within a few weeks, because so far no convincing solution that i know of has prevented these cards from overheating
 
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Its not worrying as the difference at the max resolution in that test only shows a small difference, which will be the different clock speeds of the Lighting card vs a stock speed card.

772mhz vs 832mhz core

1002mhz vs 1050mhz memory


Check these results out - http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/03/24/asus_geforce_gtx_590_video_card_review/6

the GTX580s do well at 5760X1200 res, and at higher AA and AF settings too, a GTX590 only has 1.5GB of Vram too and many people use these to power three 120HZ monitors without issue or any slowdown.

@Shep, I also say ditch the Glasses as this will only make your friend sick and give him a migraine.
 
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stulid said:
You get awful returns of performance with Tri-SLI.

And you dont need a 3GB Vram card at all for 3D surround vision, a pair of normal GTX580's is more than enough

3GB cards offer very little of a a 1.5GB version - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_580_Lightning_Extreme_Edition/27.html - I dont see the performance gap increasing at the highest resolution, do you?
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corrected for you and you will need 3x3gb 580's for to run 3x1080 @120hz to get any decent frame rate with high settings as to my this will bring any uber system to its knee's
 
so going over the amount of VRAM on the card doesnt do much to framerates then? because clearly if you go slightly over on some games at 1080p resolution, you will go a lot more over at 2560x1600 resolution.

well, it saves the OP a bunch of money at any rate.

YOUR BASKET
3 x Samsung S27A950D 27" 120Hz 3D Widescreen Ultra Thin LED Monitor - Glossy Black £599.99
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 580 OC Twin FrozR II 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £379.99
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor £239.99
1 x Silverstone Fortress FT02B-W Windowed Gaming Case - Black £219.98
2 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £183.98
1 x OCZ ZX Series 1000W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £149.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £139.99
1 x Nvidia GeForce 3D Vision Kit £109.99
1 x LG BH10LS30 10x BluRay-RW / 16 x DVD±RW Drive & 10 Pack BluRay Discs £91.98
1 x Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 PCI-E Sound Card £89.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £64.99
1 x Saitek Cyborg V7 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard £52.99
1 x Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA775/AM2/AM3) £50.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000524AS) £43.99
1 x Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse (910-000616) £24.98
1 x Boogie Bug AimB.Pad XL Gaming Mouse Surface £13.99
Total : £4,267.67 (includes shipping : £38.25).

i've added a sound card too. no clue how good it is compared to the competition, but i wanted to put the idea out there. onboard sound is pretty good, but with a £4500 PC i figured onboard sound could do with an upgrade

i would have gone for the 1.5GB lightning (twin frozr 3) but £80 over the standard GTX580 is an unbelievable rip off. you could get a waterblock for that kind of money.

speaking of which, would the person you are building for be interested in water cooling?
 
I added a bit above about the 3D glasses, seen many reports of people feeling ill/headaches/woozy using them, I say ditch them.
 
There is absolutely no good reason to spend 4.5K on a PC these days... absolutely none unless your building something for a specific role i.e. folding.

I pretty much guarantee even in a years time someone could build a PC thats as fast or faster for about 1/5th what he spent - he'd be better off spending maybe upto a grand on a nice monitor and 1.5 grand tops on the rest and upgrading down the line if he needs to.

The only thing worth chucking a lot of money at is the monitor.

And very definitely try before throwing a lot of money into 3D Vision - for most people its not much more than a gimmick and while theres nothing wrong with it they will end up just not really using it after the initial novelty wears off - which is pretty quick.
 
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Rroff said:
There is absolutely no good reason to spend 4.5K on a PC these days... absolutely none unless your building something for a specific role i.e. folding.

I pretty much guarantee even in a years time someone could build a PC thats as fast or faster for about 1/5th what he spent - he'd be better off spending maybe upto a grand on a nice monitor and 1.5 grand tops on the rest and upgrading down the line if he needs to.

The only thing worth chucking a lot of money at is the monitor.
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if the person in question wants to do 3D surround at any sort of decent settings, then they are going to have to spend a hell of a lot on their PC. personally i think the two SSD's in raid is a waist of £200, and the sound card might be a waist of money, but other than that, its all pretty neccessary for 3D surround.

having a look at the few benchmarks around, 2x480's in SLI will go down to 30FPS in a lot of games in 3D surround, which to some people will be unacceptable
 
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