spec my mate plz 700 quid, base unit and monitor

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hey guys
my mate is after a spec for a PC
He wants a base unit and a monitor
(he said he wanted 17'' TFT... but im sure a crt will do if you start to struggle with the spec.

im thinking he will benefit from getting strong components which you dont realy upgrade often like psu and mobo. 160GB HDD plus ( just IDE as hes a new builder) the onbord sound will be fine too so no problems there

uses : gaming !
AMD or INTEL will be fine ( i cant spec AMD because i dont really know my way round an AMD rig :) )
cheers guys !!
Rick
 
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hey man first of all thanks for the quick reply !
if theres 2 things i dont know about in the world of computers its AMD and ATI lol.
would you say thats a decent set up for the money ? ( what would that PFX card be a nvidia equiv' of ? )
personaly i was thiking the case is overkill maybe... but jsut readign its not as it comes with a PSU.
would he be better off getting a cheaper case and a better PSU say a tagan 430watt or something ? ?
also 1Gb ram is fine... it atleastleves scope for upgrading ! which hes bound to do ( dont think he will ever overclock it though !! )

would the 3500 AMD be a better compromise for the few extra quid ? i may be able to get him to settlre for a CRT monitor too :)
thanks again. ill work on that spec
 
okay heres what ive come up with

FG-000-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR) 1
£14.50 £14.50
CP-150-AM AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - OEM (CP-150-AM) 1
£122.95 £122.95
MB-129-AS Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS) 1
£69.95 £69.95
MY-005-GL GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (GE1GB3200BHDC) (MY-005-GL) 1
£49.95 £49.95
GX-055-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X800 GTO16 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-055-PC) 1
£104.95 £104.95
HD-010-HI Hitachi Deskstar T7K250 160GB ATA-133 8MB Cache - OEM (0A31635) (HD-010-HI) 1
£45.95 £45.95
MO-006-HY Hyundai ImageQuest Q770S 17'' Perfectly Flat CRT Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-006-HY) 1
£64.95 £64.95
CA-007-TG Tagan TG430-U15 430W ATX2.01 Easycon SLi Compliant Modular Silent PSU (CA-007-TG) 1
£46.95 £46.95
CA-009-AS Asus TA-250 Series Midi Tower (Black) - No PSU (CA-009-AS) 1
£31.95 £31.95
CD-029-NE NEC ND4570 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Beige) - OEM (CD-029-NE) 1
£24.95 £24.95
Subtotal £577.05
VAT £100.99
Total £678.04

its based on your spec mate, just a few chnages... monitor for example... ill have to check that hes happy with CRT though !!
if the SATA is really N00B compatible ill change the HDD for a SATA one !!
theres about an extra 20 quid to play with there :)
 
right been speaking to him,... :(
hes already got a DVD drive he wants to use so that leaves it at :

FG-000-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR) 1
£14.50 £14.50
CP-150-AM AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - OEM (CP-150-AM) 1
£122.95 £122.95
MB-129-AS Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS) 1
£69.95 £69.95
MY-005-GL GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (GE1GB3200BHDC) (MY-005-GL) 1
£49.95 £49.95
GX-055-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X800 GTO16 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-055-PC) 1
£104.95 £104.95
MO-006-HY Hyundai ImageQuest Q770S 17'' Perfectly Flat CRT Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-006-HY) 1
£64.95 £64.95
CA-007-TG Tagan TG430-U15 430W ATX2.01 Easycon SLi Compliant Modular Silent PSU (CA-007-TG) 1
£46.95 £46.95
CA-009-AS Asus TA-250 Series Midi Tower (Black) - No PSU (CA-009-AS) 1
£31.95 £31.95
HD-001-HI Hitachi Deskstar T7K250 NCQ 160GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM (0A31637) (HD-001-HI) 1
£47.95 £47.95
Subtotal £554.10
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)) £24.95
VAT £101.34
Total £680.39

i think the 3700 will be fine but it appears we could maybe get a bit more out of the budget for the graphics !

btw... how did you get the lower price shipping ?
 
problem :( ... please dotn kick me in lol.
petes just decided to fit an x-fi and a medusa into the spec and a 250GB maxator instead of 160 hiatchi
so ive come up with this...
REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST REMOVE
FG-000-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£14.50 £14.50
CP-150-AM AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - OEM (CP-150-AM)
£122.95 £122.95
MB-129-AS Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£69.95 £69.95
MY-005-GL GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (GE1GB3200BHDC) (MY-005-GL)
£49.95 £49.95
GX-055-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X800 GTO16 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-055-PC)
£104.95 £104.95
MO-006-HY Hyundai ImageQuest Q770S 17'' Perfectly Flat CRT Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-006-HY)
£64.95 £64.95
SC-034-CL Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music - Retail (SC-034-CL)
£69.95 £69.95
CA-001-AR Arctic Cooling T2 Silentium Silent Midi Tower Case - 450W Seasonic Silent PSU (CA-001-AR)
£49.95 £49.95
SP-000-RA SpeedLink Medusa SL-8790 5.1 Surround Headset (SP-000-RA)
£45.95 £45.95
HD-088-MD Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 250GB 6V250F0 SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-088-MD)
£57.95 £57.95
Subtotal £651.05
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)) £24.95
VAT £118.30
Total £794.30

explicit is there somehting missing from that spec... i cant work out why that spec is soo cheap :| lol weird ! all the components are more expensivwe but its come out cheaper lol...can you perform that trick in everyday liife ?
 
scrap the x-fi then idf the onbord is good yea ? ( my experience with onboard is a bad one :P )
im not up to speed on AMD... whats the difference between the opty and the 64 ? which is better ? and could you explaint he ballence ?
 
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I'd swap the maxtor for a hitach 250gb, far superior drive

im not being funny... but for the extra money in my eyes it doesnt seem worth it :S... i mean I would naturaly go for the highert pwerformance one ( yes i know i have 2 maxators lol dont start :P ) but i think for 250GB on a budget the maxators are fine.

im really sorry guuys by the way bt me and my mate have been emailing all night and the needs have been chnagiing but it aseems to be composed of a mix of all your specs

not going for the opty as he wont be buying 'This Week' and he deffo wont be overclocking it :)

so i think were going to settle for the following... ( i think the 3700 or the 3800 is still in the air... but this shouldnt matter for the price difference
so appologies for the everstganging needs / wants... but if i didnt have you mad AMD and ATI ghuys id never have gotten this spec ! lol

here we go :

Shopping Cart (Prices in British Pounds) REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST REMOVE
FG-000-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£14.50 £14.50
MB-129-AS Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£69.95 £69.95
MY-005-GL GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (GE1GB3200BHDC) (MY-005-GL)
£49.95 £49.95
CA-001-AR Arctic Cooling T2 Silentium Silent Midi Tower Case - 450W Seasonic Silent PSU (CA-001-AR)
£49.95 £49.95
SP-000-RA SpeedLink Medusa SL-8790 5.1 Surround Headset (SP-000-RA)
£45.95 £45.95
HD-088-MD Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 250GB 6V250F0 SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-088-MD)
£57.95 £57.95
GX-037-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X850 XT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-037-PC)
£129.95 £129.95
SC-037-CL Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 7.1 EAX Sound Card - OEM (SC-037-CL)
£29.95 £29.95
MO-006-HY Hyundai ImageQuest Q770S 17'' Perfectly Flat CRT Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-006-HY)
£64.95 £64.95
CP-150-AM AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - OEM (CP-150-AM)
£122.95 £122.95
Subtotal £636.05
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)) £24.95
VAT £115.68
Total £776.68



so you may be wondering where that extra 76 came from. well thats shipping and a medusa headset and audigy 4 soundcard... i wouldnt say the headset and shipping were part of the spec as such and they count for (about) 76 quid :)
well. thats quite a good spec for that money as far as i can see !!
again thanks a lot EVERYONE who has had input... ofcourse its still open to suggestions :)
but just to set the record straight., hes on a pretttttty low budget PC at the moment so i dibt he would notice the difference between say a hiatchi and a maxator, where we probobly would etc
thanks again. Rick
 
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okay thanks dom !
as i said my experience with AMD is erm... well i have an AMD 1Ghz compaq ... but thats about it !
i understand what you mean about not being an OCers chip though :)
would the audigy not be better with headphones though as theyre much closer to your head etc and you can hear every lil defeact... also the little bit extra performance you get from pci S/C's ( LITTLE bit :P )

is the onboard souind really that good ?? !! ... im impressed :P
it will save him some dosh i suppose... he was about to buy a 60 quid senn USB headset ( i tolfd hime its more future proff to get a 3.5 audio jack one incase he buys an x-fi or something later )
 
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