Speedfan problem

SexyGreyFox

SexyGreyFox

SexyGreyFox

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First of all I built a new system about 3 weeks ago, I don't mess with overclocking but two days ago one of my fans became noisy.
WD40'd it but no luck so did a bit of Google'ing and came across Speedfan however my Speedfan looks nothing like the screenshots I've seen, just wondering why?
Obviously the bottom picture is off Google Images

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I came across FanControl and I've been able to stop the noise so happy but now confused why Speedfan doesn't show everything.
 
freddie64 said:
I tried to use Speedfan a long time ago and could not get it working.

Just keep using Fancontrol and forget you even heard of Speedfan. ;)
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Wise words indeed.

SpeedFan hasn't been updated in ages, so it probably doesn't recognise the fan controllers on your motherboard. In any case, Fan Control is so much better in every conceivable way I can't see why anyone other than a masochist would want to use SpeedFan over it.
 
deviation said:
Exactly :cry:. So why would you use an App in Windows over doing it properly in the BIOS :( :confused:
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because Windows

So what you're saying is that the one fan I'm having a problem with on the front of my case isn't good enough to be turned down by FanControl in real time so the annoying noise goes away?
You're saying BIOS is much superior to turn that down by a small amount?
In Windows you hear fans speed up and down depending on the process where in BIOS I thought I'd turned it low enough but it wasn't.

I tried BIOS before the software but I was back and forth depending on what I was doing in Windows, FanControl sorted it.
 
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SexyGreyFox said:
because Windows

So what you're saying is that the one fan I'm having a problem with on the front of my case isn't good enough to be turned down by FanControl in real time so the annoying noise goes away?
You're saying BIOS is much superior to turn that down by a small amount?
In Windows you hear fans speed up and down depending on the process where in BIOS I thought I'd turned it low enough but it wasn't.

I tried BIOS before the software but I was back and forth depending on what I was doing in Windows, FanControl sorted it.
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How rude, you have a serious attitude problem.

Bye!
 
deviation said:
Exactly :cry:. So why would you use an App in Windows over doing it properly in the BIOS :( :confused:
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I can't speak for others but the reason I use Fan Control is that it allows you to manage fan speeds based on temperature readings from sources that the BIOS can't see (eg HDD temps). It also allows you to adjust individual fan speeds based on information from multiple different sources, which can be useful.

You can even get plugins for hardware that Fan Control doesn't recognise out of the box - I have some SAS drives connected to an LSI HBA, and there's a plugin for Aida64 which can read these drives' temperatures although Fan Control itself doesn't.

You'd really have to try it yourself to see what it can do - it's way more sophisticated than any BIOS-managed fan controls I've seen, although I do appreciate it's probably overkill for most setups.
 
CaptainCrash said:
I can't speak for others but the reason I use Fan Control is that it allows you to manage fan speeds based on temperature readings from sources that the BIOS can't see (eg HDD temps). It also allows you to adjust individual fan speeds based on information from multiple different sources, which can be useful.

You can even get plugins for hardware that Fan Control doesn't recognise out of the box - I have some SAS drives connected to an LSI HBA, and there's a plugin for Aida64 which can read these drives' temperatures although Fan Control itself doesn't.

You'd really have to try it yourself to see what it can do - it's way more sophisticated than any BIOS-managed fan controls I've seen, although I do appreciate it's probably overkill for most setups.
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I totally understand that and I'm well aware what Apps can do :)
However, he is simply trying to adjust a fan, something that any BIOS can do on the fly, it is pretty much real time how quickly you hear the ramping up/down when tweaking the profile, then it 'just works' forever regardless of OS/System or App updates.
For that use case, the BIOS is always the best option, it cant randomly shutdown/crash like an App can do, putting your system at risk etc.
 
deviation said:
I totally understand that and I'm well aware what Apps can do :)
However, he is simply trying to adjust a fan, something that any BIOS can do on the fly, it is pretty much real time how quickly you hear the ramping up/down when tweaking the profile, then it 'just works' forever regardless of OS/System or App updates.
For that use case, the BIOS is always the best option, it cant randomly shutdown/crash like an App can do, putting your system at risk etc.
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If it does shut down or crash the fans will all just default to full speed, so it's hardly putting your system at risk.
 
CaptainCrash said:
I can't speak for others but the reason I use Fan Control is that it allows you to manage fan speeds based on temperature readings from sources that the BIOS can't see (eg HDD temps). It also allows you to adjust individual fan speeds based on information from multiple different sources, which can be useful.

You can even get plugins for hardware that Fan Control doesn't recognise out of the box - I have some SAS drives connected to an LSI HBA, and there's a plugin for Aida64 which can read these drives' temperatures although Fan Control itself doesn't.

You'd really have to try it yourself to see what it can do - it's way more sophisticated than any BIOS-managed fan controls I've seen, although I do appreciate it's probably overkill for most setups.
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Careful dude, he'll say you're rude if you disagree with him.
 
deviation said:
However, he is simply trying to adjust a fan, something that any BIOS can do on the fly, it is pretty much real time how quickly you hear the ramping up/down when tweaking the profile, then it 'just works' forever regardless of OS/System or App updates.
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However it doesn't unless you can get in the BIOS from Windows.
I told you I adjusted in the BIOS but when I went into Windows and put my PC into a heavy load the fans speed up.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Careful dude, he'll say you're rude if you disagree with him.
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You were the person who was rude initially when someone asked you a simple question politely, not me.
deviation said:
May I ask why you're not adjusting the fan curve/rpm in the BIOS?
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Nothing remotely rude about what I said.

SexyGreyFox said:
However it doesn't unless you can get in the BIOS from Windows.
I told you I adjusted in the BIOS but when I went into Windows and put my PC into a heavy load the fans speed up.
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Yes it does :cry: what are you talking about? You adjust them on the fly then and there in the BIOS and immediately here them either ramp up or down. Then you set your PWM if you wish, save the profile and restart and it's applied from startup.
Since when does the BIOS rely on a Windows OS to know when to turn on the fan adjustment :cry:

What if you ran Linux/BSD, then what, your fans just don't work, absolute nonsense!

You didn't tell me anything, you just said "because Windows" sarcastically, twice, then realised you'd come across rude, then edited your post, thinking no-one would see it.

You really do seem to have a serious attitude problem.
Unsubbed from this thread.
 
It worked in BIOS, worked in Windows while i was browsing but as soon as i was doing some heavy work the fan started up again, soon as i stopped it slowed down again.
FanControl solved it.
And you're being rude with your childish laughing emojis when I told you the problem.
And i changed the post to explain the problem more since you weren't getting it.
 
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Try BIOS then use it's fan calibration feature, if it has it. Seems to work for me. That determines the range of RPM so they don't shut off completely

In this weather I changed it from silent to performance mode.
 
There may be a software package for your motherboard from the manufacturer (and you may or may not want to use it depending on who it's from). This would be the bridge between BIOS only settings, and third party software.

Most likely you've set a fan curve and the BIOS was responding to spikes in CPU temperature. One thing you can't usually do in BIOS is set any kind of gradual response - temps go up (momentarily), fan goes fast.

But if software works for you there's no reason not to use it. As mentioned, Linux would be a candidate for BIOS control.

BTW you've probably flushed out the lubricant in the fan with WD-40, might be worth putting some might machine oil in like 3-in-1.

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If it does shut down or crash the fans will all just default to full speed, so it's hardly putting your system at risk.
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Not at all true, most fan control software I've used leaves everything fixed in whatever state it was in when it crashed. I've had this force fan speeds low.
 
LuckyBenski said:
Not at all true, most fan control software I've used leaves everything fixed in whatever state it was in when it crashed. I've had this force fan speeds low.
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I've not seen this behaviour. Whenever I've deliberately killed the app in Task Manager to simulate a crash the fans always immediately ramped up to full speed (this was true of SpeedFan as well as Fan Control).

What fan control programs were you using? Did you have the BIOS fan controls disabled/set to full speed?
 
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