Speeding Fine

chrislocalboy

chrislocalboy

chrislocalboy

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Hello all.... to my horror I recieved a Notice of Intended Prosecution through my door today, basically it was a speeding fine.

Now I've heard many times that you can easily get off these fines and points by writing somekind of letter.... having scoured Google find lots of hits.... all want somekind of payment and they send you a template.... has anyone here done this or managed to get a speeding fine cancelled, if so could they please tell me how???

An ex colleague got caught in the same spot a couple of years ago, he wrote off asking for evidence or a copy of the photograph.... he never heard anything back and it was therefore cancelled (just using this as an example)

I understand I should not have been going over the speed limit but 40mph on a busy dual carriage way it think is silly.... and the area I was caught in is right in the middle if a 2 sided industrial estate, no housing, schools or anything that would normally impose a sensible speed limit in the area.

Cheers peeps.
 
If it was a device of which there will be no visible evidence of who was driving then it is always worth going the PACE route. Details of this are available at www.pepipoo.com

Ive used it with mixed success, one case was dropped, and the other went through and i was found guilty of speeding and picked up £60+3points+£35 court costs (so not any worse than if i had taken the fixed penalty really). Both times they were fixed gatso fixed penalty notices.
 
LOL!!!!

I found that website which was mentioned and have got myself that PACE template thingy and was all ready to send it but then noticed those posts were done in 2004.... have things changed since then??

Am I best asking for the evidence first and seeing what happens?? if so how would I word it;

Mr Policeman, could you please provide me with a sopy of the evidence that you speak of in case blah blah blah

Is that ok? worded and typed properly of course?

Cheers
 
chrislocalboy said:
I understand I should not have been going over the speed limit but 40mph on a busy dual carriage way it think is silly.... and the area I was caught in is right in the middle if a 2 sided industrial estate, no housing, schools or anything that would normally impose a sensible speed limit in the area.
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Instead of making excuses for your actions. Be a man, grin and bare it.
 
Im not making any excuses you arse.... I clearly stated that..... but rather that sit on a grass verge in a van driking coffee and snapping people on there way to work who will actually have to do a full and hards days work rather than as mentioned sit on my arse drinking coffee all day and looking through a camera every few minutes and taking the odd picture/reading, I think police time could be used much more effectivly to catch some real criminals instead of making an honest and hard working persons struggle month to month simply to pay my mortgage and bills another £60 harder.

If I was still living at home with my parents living the high life then I would not care.... but I dont, I'm in the 8th month of owning my first home and let me tell you its damn hard so please dont tell me to stand up and be a man.... you have no idea.
 
I have just bent over and taken sent back the nip for 80 in a 70 :(

waiting to see the see outcome now
 
chrislocalboy said:
Now I've heard many times that you can easily get off these fines and points by writing somekind of letter.....
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Stop listening to idiots, it's the blind leading the blind these people are talking pish! PACE hardly EVER works no matter what folk law or people down the pub or at work may have you believe. It happens to the best of us and unless you have serious mitigating circumstances or have reasonable doubt pay the fine and move on would be my advice, which you can of course totally ignore by I might tell you told you so... ;)
 
Just say that you felt threatened because someone was following you in a car and was being very aggressive, so you accelerated to get away. :p
 
chrislocalboy said:
Im not making any excuses you arse.... I clearly stated that..... but rather that sit on a grass verge in a van driking coffee and snapping people on there way to work who will actually have to do a full and hards days work rather than as mentioned sit on my arse drinking coffee all day and looking through a camera every few minutes and taking the odd picture/reading, I think police time could be used much more effectivly to catch some real criminals instead of making an honest and hard working persons struggle month to month simply to pay my mortgage and bills another £60 harder.

If I was still living at home with my parents living the high life then I would not care.... but I dont, I'm in the 8th month of owning my first home and let me tell you its damn hard so please dont tell me to stand up and be a man.... you have no idea.
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The Police are doing there job thats what they trained to do, i bet you never speed there again!
i also bet you have never been to an RTA with multiple deaths due to speeding cars. If you cant pay the fine BLAH BLAH BLAH.
 
chrislocalboy said:
Im not making any excuses you arse.... I clearly stated that..... but rather that sit on a grass verge in a van driking coffee and snapping people on there way to work who will actually have to do a full and hards days work rather than as mentioned sit on my arse drinking coffee all day and looking through a camera every few minutes and taking the odd picture/reading, I think police time could be used much more effectivly to catch some real criminals instead of making an honest and hard working persons struggle month to month simply to pay my mortgage and bills another £60 harder.

If I was still living at home with my parents living the high life then I would not care.... but I dont, I'm in the 8th month of owning my first home and let me tell you its damn hard so please dont tell me to stand up and be a man.... you have no idea.
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Well how about don't speed then? Take it like a man.
 
chrislocalboy said:
I understand I should not have been going over the speed limit but 40mph on a busy dual carriage way it think is silly.... and the area I was caught in is right in the middle if a 2 sided industrial estate, no housing, schools or anything that would normally impose a sensible speed limit in the area.

Cheers peeps.
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On that basis then Im sure the Crown will let me off with murder because the victim was a bad lad anyway......
 
I enjoy the self justification posts:

"I shouldn't have to pay any fines because I don't agree that you should be fined for going the speed I was going in the area I was caught".

What an amazing defence.
I personally think you should have your day in court and actually use that defence.
It's all well and good telling us all and making your case to us about how you don't agree with the speed limit etc.
Now make your case against the magistrate and see what they have to say - at the end of the day they can make your fine go away, we can't.

Personally I say "Can't do the time, don't commit the crime".
You were in the wrong, you know you were in the wrong, you've admitted to being in the wrong.
So now go and pay your fine and keep your eyes open for those vans parked at the side of the road or those large yellow square things with white lines painted all over the road and numerous signs warning you that there are cameras ahead.
 
Take the punishment like a man! You where speeding, you've admitted on a public forum that you where speeding. Pay the fine, take the points, learn and move on!
 
chrislocalboy said:
I think police time could be used much more effectivly to catch some real criminals instead of making an honest and hard working persons struggle month to month simply to pay my mortgage and bills another £60 harder.
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if people didnt speed and then complain and want letting off for it then the police could spend more time catching other criminals as they wouldnt need to spend time sorting your paperwork out

there is NO excuse for breaking the limits (under normal circumstances) whether you agree with them or not
 
Sirrel Squirrel said:
How do these PACE statements work, do you just make up someone like Paddy O' Toole from Ireland or something?
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Letter which quotes some sort of law / act whereby you do not have to incriminate yourself as that is our right or something along those lines.

Some say it has worked, but there are also horror stories of it going pear shaped and people end up with the 3 points / 60 fine and then a £1k cour charge etc..

Not worth the risk imo.
 
cyclopopcicle said:
if people didnt speed and then complain and want letting off for it then the police could spend more time catching other criminals as they wouldnt need to spend time sorting your paperwork out

there is NO excuse for breaking the limits (under normal circumstances) whether you agree with them or not
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I'd disagree. There are plenty of excuses for breaking the limits, but none that will negate the penalty. If you choose to speed, you accept the risk you may be caught.

This is a different argument to whether the speed limit is inappropriate, ineffective and the implementation is crass. It's still the law, and while it exists, you have to accept the risks should you choose to break it.

The only possible logic where it's not a choice is when a limit is set way too low and the average traffic speed is much higher than the posted limit, in such situations driving at the limit will make you far more of a hazard than keeping up with the traffic.

However, as speeding is an absolute offence, the above is no defence against the penalty.
 
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